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Dad called me a "d*ke" and I'm really upset

Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by FrereApothicair, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. FrereApothicair

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    Came out to my dad almost a year ago. He was somewhat supportive, but asked that I "try to live more of my life" before making any transition decisions. I agreed, mostly because I was so relieved that he hadn't disowned me. Well, lately, he keeps trying to give me advice on how to dress in a more feminine way, and told me a couple weeks ago "Don't dress in a way that screams 'I'm a d*ke!'" I was shocked, and didn't know what to say at the time. Now, graduation is coming up, and I'm going to be wearing menswear under my robes. I'm still upset about that incident, and I'm also worried he's going to make a big deal out of it. I guess it's time to talk to him again, and explain that I don't know how much longer I CAN live like this, and that he's REALLY not helping when he gives me girl advice.

    I dunno, I guess this was mostly to vent and to express that I'm really hurt and scared right now, and could use some words of support? :icon_sad:
     
  2. SystemGlitch

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    It tends to be really difficult for fathers whenever they "lose" their daughters, I've noticed. It happens when they first get in a relationship, when they get married, when they move away from home... or for our dads, when their daughter was never a daughter in the first place. From talking to my family and some other trans people, apparently family members seem to take it as if they are losing their sister/brother/daughter/son/etc... and they fail to notice that the person isn't really going anywhere. I think he's probably just as worried as you are and doesn't really know how to handle the situation, coupled with the fact that he may not fully understand what you mean when you tell him that you are transgender/a man. However, that in no way excuses him talking to you like that or gives him the right to dismiss your feelings about your gender, and if transitioning is the path you need to take to help you, I think that you should pursue it and if he cares about you then he should be happy that you are happy. There is support for family members of transgender people as well if he needs to access it.

    I definitely think it's important to talk to him again soon about how you feel and explain why transitioning is what will help you and that nothing else can. I don't know how it is for you, but for me my childhood was wasted on "wait until you've lived more of life". I regret so badly that I didn't insist on seeing a gender counsellor when I was first questioning at 14 because I feel like I missed my teenage years due to not really being alive or a real person. I was a thing doing stuff people told me to do and reflecting what I was told to be, all the while not really experiencing anything. Now that I live as male, I'm alive. This is my life, and what came before was nothing but some sort of purgatory or limbo that I'm so thankful to have escaped.

    If you don't want to have a full conversation about your gender, you could simply tell him that you have no interest in being more feminine and that his comments to you upset you - you are an adult, you can present yourself how and as you want to, and he shouldn't feel like he has control over that even if he is your father. At the very least you could tell him if you can that the word he used is an slur that shouldn't be used to describe anyone - hopefully that should mean he avoids using it in the future in reference to you or to anyone else.

    Best of luck with everything, and all of us here on EC will support you where we can. (*hug*)
     
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  3. FrereApothicair

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    Thanks for your support. (*hug*)

    I know it's got to be hard for him to adjust, but I kind of feel like I'm dying? I know I need to say something, because I need to MOVE ON from this awful rut. I'm kinda scared to bring anything up right away, though, since he does still support me financially--come January I'll be at an actual job that actually pays enough to cover all my bills (and covers transition care, Hallelujah), so I'll probably bring it up then.

    Next time he says something about the way I dress, I'll probably at least let him know that he's doing the opposite of helping...:eusa_doh:

    Thanks again
     
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    Ew, that's nasty. Sorry you're dealing with this. It sounds like you really need to educate him on trans issues, after all, you're his SON. And he needs to accept that.

    Hell, even some cis women don't want to dress feminine. I wear a nice top and dress pants to formal occassions, never a dress. Femininity is a social construct that hurts everybody.
     
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    Jesus, you'd think a father would find it easier than a mother. Mind you, I have no father so couldn't possibly say.
     
  6. FrereApothicair

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    Yeah, he was okay at first, but now it's like he's gone into retroactive denial. Really weird. He's started telling me stories about a coworker's spouse, who transitioned to female and then de-transitioned. He doesn't seem to listen when I tell him "No, Dad, that's really unusual. No, Dad, I can't just "live with it." I don't know how or when to bring it up again in a way that's not super confrontational but that will get his attention and make him listen. (Of course, after the election we just had, I'm not really sure if I want to be publicly out anytime soon, anyway. Ugh.)
     
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    Sounds like any parent, scared you are making a mistake that you will later regret. I know that isn't the case in your mind but, try to see his perspective. He knows people that reversed the transition and, doesn't want you to go through that.

    Also make it clear to him that you are going to dress as a man, it's your mind and body and, ultimately your choice. The main thing is that your wife is supportive. You and she are the two that have to live with you for the rest of your lives, you and your wife have to be your priority. Do what's right for you and, for her and, I think your dad will come around again once he sees you are both happy with your decisions.