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Discussion in 'Gender Identity and Expression' started by BlueAvalanche, May 26, 2016.

  1. BlueAvalanche

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    Hello!! I'm Blue, i'm a AFAB teenager, and I think i'm a trans boy?? But i'm still very confused and uneducated on the subject, so thats why i'm here!! :slight_smile:

    I've recently started going by a male name and he/him pronouns at my youth group, and while I don't mind my she/her pronouns, I defo prefer he/him.

    I also prefer presenting as androgynous rather then straight-up masculine, I also like dresses/frilly things, but on the inside I feel very male?? Like, if actual appearences are anything to go by, I favour androgy, then masculine, then feminine. But I don't think I like going by she/her or they/them, it really doesn't fit the way I feel!!

    I don't have a lot of dysphoria, but that doesn't mean I have none!! I want to have a completely flat chest, and a more angular face, becasue I look quite feminine the way I am now.

    Sooo... yeah. I'm not sure if I really have enough in common with trans people to call myself trans, i'm just very confused and am trying to find a label for myself!! If theres anyone who feels this way and has advice or encouragement, i'd really be greatful!! :slight_smile:
     
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    You've got dysphoria and you feel like a guy. You sound plenty trans to me. I'd say you definitely have a lot in common with me, and I'm trans. I like presenting androgynously, but sometimes like dresses, and don't have tons of dysphoria on most days, but I'm more comfortable being a guy physically and socially, so I'm trans.
     
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    Thanks for your reply, i'm ready and willing for any advice right now!! Yeah, i'm also open to my parents about gender stuff which makes it quite a bit easier for me, i'm very lucky to have nice parents :slight_smile: I feel a very personal and primal feeling inside taht tells me i'm male, but i'm still a teen, and i'm scared to confront it head on. Hopefully in time haha.
     
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    Wooow, cool parents... I wish mine were less nervous...

    I know exactly about which feeling you're talking about. When I was younger, I would wake up in the morning convinced I'm a man, and then realise I'm not, or something in my head would just flip suddenly and I would see myself as a guy. That's just examples, it's one of those things that come from the back of the head and keep on whispering into your ear. Gut feeling.
     
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    Yeah, my parents do worry, but they r trying their best to understand!! i'm greatful for that!! :slight_smile:
     
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    I know exactly what you mean. I'm going through much the same thing right now. I have never been one for girl's clothes and I feel more comfortable wearing a guy's outfit and being referred to as he/him but I'm still so unsure. I definitely wish my chest was flat and I feel a lot of dysphoria with that.
    What I'm trying to say is that I understand what you're going through and I feel that if you feel more comfortable as a man then you might be trans. It's great that you have understanding parents. My mother is trying and that's all I can ask from her.
     
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    Yeah, I've got so many questions going on in my head with this, like, the idea of testosterone sounds nice sometimes, but other times i'd prefer to go androgynous, to the point where I don't really care if people can't figure out my gender, all I know for now is that i'm not female!!
     
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    I admire you and I love the fact you have such great, loving, and understandable parents. I may not be trans, but I have a few friends that are. One in particular that fits some of what you are describing. His parents were also understandable, as well as his younger brother. His mother still refers to him as 'She' and 'Sam' a shortened version to 'Samantha' as opposed to 'Zach' which is how I know him. Though, their isn't hate nor bigotry with the mother she just isn't ready yet. Still loves none the less.

    It took him years to come out to me thinking that because 'Samantha' and I had dated when I was trying to find myself and the closeness we shared after I came out that I wouldn't accept him for being 'Zach' and the same person. It was the direct opposite. The same crush that caused me to date him as 'Samantha' roared back in and was rekindled. If I were to be brutally honest with myself I would have to admit I still have the same crush more than 10 years later, just intensified even now though I've drifted and haven't spoken to him in almost a year. If that would make sense.

    So, congrats to you to figuring it out so early. With a few exceptions, seeing as you are looking for advice. I'm not sure what I can really say now other to go into more detail about 'Zach', so for now I guess that's all I have to say. If anything, you've now given me yet another reason to talk to 'Zach' to find out some information that might help you. I know it might be too early, way too early in fact to start looking. But, think about gender therapy. That would help. People on this site I've noticed are very kind and supportive, let alone helpful. So, already you are well on your way.

    See if there is a support group in your area. Or even surf the internet for informative blogs and the such. I do know that androgyny is how 'Zach' feels. Doesn't want to look too feminine but also doesn't want the testosterone to change everything about him that is 'Zach'. A double-edged knife there. So, for now he is content with just being a little hard to figure out. I hope you find the help you are needing, but you seem fairly sure and certain of yourself already. ~_^
     
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    Aw, thank you for our kind words!!

    There are so many things that i'm still confused over that I havent even mentioned, such as my name, I have a new one picked out, but my parents chose my birthname with a specific meaning in mind, it's very personal to them, while I chose my prefered name simply because I liked it (I also chose it because it had a similar history to my birth name, being celtic and popular in australia of all places).

    And as I said before, i'll take advice from all places!! I hope Zach is happy and i'm glad that he has a loving family and you to support him!! :grin:
     
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    Understanding parents is always a very cool thing.

    I understand where you are coming from. I have very little dysphoria but I do know I prefer looking, feeling, and being referred to as male. Currently I feel like I am in an in between place where I better fit androgynous till I can begin to work more towards becoming male.

    If you have dysphoria, even if it is only a little, and you feel male leaning then there is a chance that you could be somewhere on the trandmasculine spectrum.

    As for the wanting to look male at times and wanting to look androgynous at other times. Perfectly fine, I'm the same way. And you can still take T and pull off an androgynous look. You're only able to get those manly muscles if you're willing to work on them. There is also the option of starting on a low dose of T so that the effects take longer to happen. A way of easing you into the changes should change be something you need easing into.

    Its great that you have parents that are allowing you to explore and feel out who you are. Perhaps they would be open to talking about your chosen name, maybe you could find a middle name that is make and has the same meaning but make the name you like your first name and go by that.

    If you have more questions do feel free to ask on my wall, or in this thread even. The people of EC are amazingly friendly and very helpful.
     
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    About my name, it has an extremely feminine meaning (my first name means darling, my second is the irish way of saying daisy haha), but as I said, I feel like a boy, mostly masculine/androgynous.

    But I do occasionally get urges to wear cute girls clothes.

    And this makes me wonder if i'm really trans?? I still feel male, and the urge is fairly rare, I still prefer masculinity/androgy, but its there.

    That also the reason I feel uneasy when it comes to idea as hormones, I want to look genderless, but with a mostly masculine/androgynous look, and maybe occasionally feminine, but he/him pronouns at all times haha.

    It's quite confusing and it makes me feel invalidated, so if anybody has been through what i'm going through, it would be nice to hear!! :slight_smile:
     
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    I'm not trans so I don't know how helpful my input can be, but I have a non-binary friend who prefers male pronouns, and I'm pretty sure he's not going to transition despite having been born a female. I also have another friend like this, except she simply doesn't care about pronouns. So whilst I'm in absolutely no position to say whether or not you're trans (only you will really know), have you considered the non-binary identity?

    Or, you know, you could just be a guy who wears dresses sometimes. As I said, only you can really choose how to identify. Personally, I'm a (cis) girl who likes to wear masculine clothes about 40% of the time, so even if you feel 100% male, it doesn't mean that you can't have "feminine" characteristics, e.g. wearing women's clothes sometimes. Gender roles are becoming much more fluid, luckily. :slight_smile:
     
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    Thanks for your imput, it was very helpful!!

    I probs should have put this down earlier, but i'm pretty sure i'm not a form of non-binary from my own perspective.

    I feel very much like I fit inside the binary that society has put for us, just on the oppisite end, haha!!

    I'm very unsure about T, but i'm figuring it out!! I should probs do more research on nb identities just in case though!! I just can't really see myself with any pronouns aside from him/he/his. I get misgendered all the time because I present as female with a female name and pronouns, but it happens so much that I don't really care, and I can't blame people for thinking i'm female.

    That and i'm still very unsure as to whether Ireally am trans or not, I certainally feel that way about myself, and I want to be treated like a guy by people, but the idea of T and surgeries scare me for some reason...
     
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    Ooh, I see!

    If you don't want to transition, it doesn't make you any less of a man. If you're not comfortable with the idea of transitioning then you shouldn't have to - or if it's like, you WANT to but the idea makes you nervous then maybe you could talk to trans people who have been through the surgery? I have to have an operation soon and what made me feel less nervous was hearing about how it has positively impacted others who have had that particular operation.

    If you like, I could ask a MtF friend about it, because she hasn't had the surgery and as far as I know she isn't on hormones either (although she might be). I mean, a trans person's input would be more helpful than mine, I'm sure! Or, you know, anybody on this site, haha.
     
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    hey! I'm trans and identify on the male-side of things, and I definitely feel where you're coming from with the preferring androgyny :slight_smile: Personally, I want people in society to see and recognize me as a boy, I want a flat chest and a deep voice and a beard. But I would say that my personality, mannerisms, and presentation are more "androgynous" than "masculine". I like eyeliner and sometimes I want to wear dresses, and it's all cool :slight_smile: I guess what I'm trying to say is that just because you want to wear dresses or makeup or other stereotypical female things, that doesn't invalidate a male gender identity at all!
     
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    Thank you. I keep needing to tell myself taht it doesn't invalidate me, because i'm aware that gender is simply a construct and that I should pay no mind to it. :slight_smile:
     
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    Aw, thank you!! I'd really appriciate someone to talk to about this!! :slight_smile:
     
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    This thread is super great and all of your comments are helping me out as well.
    Stay awesome <3
     
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    Ahh i'm glad :slight_smile: you stay awsome as well!!
     
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    Sorry it took me awhile to respond, haha! I am rather sleepy at the moment... It's 5 am where I live and have been up all night... Well, I have been on here all night! haha

    It's funny... Well, not... Maybe ironic, but you know it's not just a trans thing. With names that is. I know alot of people that hate their names for various reasons. My reason. It's just too common! I know that we aren't technically supposed to give various forms of out identity and I understand the safe guard, but for this I don't think it would be an issue. It's Jason. My last name I won't give, but I hate it too! It's because I was bullied over it. They changed the spelling of it or added a word to it to cause alot of issues for me while in school.

    Anyway, but I know sooo many Jason's or Jay's so I would rather go by a nickname as opposed to Jason. Same with Jay, just plain J. I like for it to be spelled Jai. It makes it different. So, if someone calls out to me using Jason it's usually unnoticed. Jai I do answer to, but I answer better to a nickname. So, there is a thought... Something to go along with the 'non-binary', nicknames can be rather neutral not having be masculine nor feminine! ^_^