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General News British government vs. Anal Sex

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by Simple Thoughts, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. Andrew99

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    That right I'm your mother now go to bed you two! It is way past your bed time!
     
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    Mum, take your pills. It's time I change your diaper.
    In all seriousness, a lot of laws about porn in UK are just plain stupid. My boyfriend donated his blood one last time one week before visiting me. I will make it my life mission to stop him from ever donating blood *winky*
    Anyway, a few stupid laws won't persuade me into not being a conservative.
     
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    It depends whether we are talking about porn or just in general media.

    When it comes to the media, I think the threshold is much more open in the UK than in America say.

    On TV after 9pm pretty much anything goes: sex, nudity, swearing, violence etc. Last week for example the second series of a show where couples (gay, straight and everything in between) have live sex on air (albeit in a sealed off box in the middle of the studio) was on. I simply cannot imagine a show featuring live gay sex in America, not for a few more years.

    Likewise, full frontal nudity can be seen in reality TV to dramas, which is not really something seen in US programmes due to heavy censoring.

    On porn things are different though, and the laws are much stranger (although rarely implemented in practice). For example technically any video showing real "harm" or risky behaviour (no matter how consensual, from spanking to fisting) is "technically" illegal. This is rarely challenged though, except in some publicity grabbing examples of smear campaigns (i.e. in one famous case the police arrested a man who had sued them for practising/filming fisting - the case was thrown out though). Other things like urination and female ejaculation are also technically illegal to film and distribute but again, rarely challenged. It is not as though porn sites are banned in the UK (although ISPs often block them by default until users request "adult settings" to be activated).

    In terms of general freedom of speech laws - no real difference between US and UK. The only one being you are more likely to get away with controversial speech in the UK due to consequences being less severe.
     
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    Anal sex must be pretty good for consenting adults and a huge hidden urge if it ruffles so many feathers. Mmmmm so tempting.
     
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    You're not wrong I'm afraid - but that's not the only thing banned from UK-produced pornography. Joining female ejaculation is 'watersports', fisting, facesitting, caning, spanking and a host of other things.

    A long list of sex acts just got banned in UK porn | UK | News | The Independent

    This is what happens when people elect a bunch of right-wing nutters into power! Although as '741852963' mentions it's the type of law that exists but is rarely if ever enforced.

    It's always interested me that the British electorate have moved further and further to the left over the past 30 years but the Conservative Party has become more and more right-wing. I think it's reasonable to say that the UK currently has the most right-wing government in northern and western Europe. Heck, I'd say the Tories are the most right-wing mainstream party in the UK right now - even more right-wing than UKIP. They really are a deplorable bunch.
     
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    Spanking?! Really??...
     
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    Yes, but as already mentioned this change to the law (brought in way back in 2014) hasn't even been used as such yet (nobody has been prosecuted for filming spanking videos yet!).

    In all likelihood, this law would only ever get acted on if the "perpetrator" was a famous celebrity, politician, or someone who has pissed off the wrong people in the police force! Even then it probably wouldn't make it to court as the CPS would probably not see much justification in it. And even if it did make it to court a jury would be unlikely to demand a guilty verdict.

    See this freak anomaly (one of the few cases of it's kind I can think of in the last decade) for a general example of situations of cases being brought, and how they are quickly dismissed. As you can see, raised on dubious grounds and quickly found to be "not guilty": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Peacock

    Or this case: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/08/porn-trial-simon-walsh-acquitted-fisting_n_1755412.html

    They are certainly up there for sure.

    I think the reason they get away with it, is because they are damn good at packaging nasty (and quite frankly evil) policies as being for the good of the country.

    I think they are still fairly moderate in comparison to US Republicans - for example they did initiate the legalisation of gay marriage (albeit probably for dubious reasons) which the GOP simply would never in a million years have done. I think thats down to different voting dynamic - in the UK, particularly as there are far more parties competing there is more of a rush to appeal to the moderate voters. In the US it feels like as there are only two candidates in serious contention, both sides just do and say whatever they want as the partisan groups are well established - its much more about getting the turnout of regular voters rather than winning new voters over to your side. Just look at how borderline every election is, might aswell flip a coin - far less tactical.
     
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    Well, a political party has no chance of being elected here on an anti-LGBT platform. Homophobia just doesn't exist in the UK to the extent it does in the US and you'd gain very little here from trying to get elected by being homophobic. Ted Cruz for example would never be a serious contender for political leadership here. British people tend to be more conservative than other Europeans when it comes to nudity but it's hard to find a more gay-friendly country than the UK.
     
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    I didnt even know this was going on. I totally agree. Its not of their damn buisness!!! Are the people asking what theyre doing in the bedroom? No! Its someones own and private buisness not theirs.