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Feeling like an outsider to LGBT community

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by anthonythegamer, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. An Gentleman

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    ^Isn't Buck Angel an FTM? He's definitely not who I want to be. No, my lower body dysphoria is way too bad for me to even consider becoming a porn star and I doubt that would change after I begin transition- but I digress.

    I don't want to be part of a community whose members only(emphasis on only) care about their sexuality/gender because it would be very one note. We're all different people and even those of us with similar ideologies have different hobbies, lifestyles, and interests. I don't think that being gay/bi/trans is really enough to unite people on everything...
     
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    So basically, whate you guys are saying is that there's no point in EC or pride parades? I don't understand, but that's the impression i'm getting.
     
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    I feel like an outsider to LGBT because I'm non-binary and I've heard of many transgender people tell me I should be ''prosecuted'' for it and that I'm just trying to be ''special'' - no, I'm just trying to be what I am. I dislike some of the LGB views towards asexuality, demisexuality, pansexuality as they say it's ''not normal, a mental disorder, goes against what it means to be human'' even though these were invalidations used 50 years ago against them. It's like LGBT have finally found a group of people more minority than them, and are enjoying their majority status over them. They're justifying it saying there's ''no science'' [ but if this is true, then you can't hate on people who were homophobic/transphobic in the past, where there was no science to say these were true] but then say that scientific studies shouldn't be done [then how can you proof it's real?].

    I know it isn't everyone, but It's enough.
     
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    No, I think EC helps many who just want to know who they are, and want to talk to others in similar positions and suchlike.

    In my opinion (just my opinion note), I don't really see much point in Pride parades etc.
     
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    I agree. EC definitely helps. I came here because I felt like an outsider and I wanted to know if what I go through is normal. If others have also been through similar things.
    I also don't go to prides. I have never been at all.
     
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    Let me put it this way, people with certain ethnic backgrounds celebrate some holidays religiously, while others could give two shits what their great great grandparents did generations ago.

    Pride rallies or not, it's up for the participant to choose what they want to do.

    Traditions and events are an integral part of society, but again they do not dictate who a person is. The person themselves does.


    And as far as EC goes I have personally met two other people from this website. And one of them is one of my best friends despite being 300 miles away from each other. This site is valuable for a safe haven to connect with people who share the aspect of being closeted for one reason or another.
     
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    But I don't get how sexuality isn't enough to bring people together. If having an interest in video games and bothing else in common is enough to bring famers together, why not sexuality in the same way?
     
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    I could be an outsider to the LGBT community but then the community is more of a way of describing a movement rather than an actual community. An LGBT community is a way for Gay men, Lesbian women, all gender Bisexuals, all gender transgender people to fight for our rights and share our experiences and you'll be lucky to get a friendship through this. But sexuality is the thing we come together to fight for our equality. Everyone is different in what they like. Like for me, yes I am slightly feminine and I would like paint my nails, I consider myself a little bit of my own personal fashion queen, I also somewhat enjoy shopping as long as I have an idea of what I'm getting.

    But then I also am slightly masculine because I love video games, I also love film and television and I've always enjoyed finding out about the creation side of things in film.

    Even physically I am both feminine and masculine although this time my feminity destroys my masculinity.

    All this is a prime example that I could feel like an outsider because simply I love video games and if no one liked film or video games I could feel like an outsider, just like my feminity made me feel like an outsider in high school
     
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    I do feel left out (probably from society as a whole), but for different reasons. I could care less about media representation.
     
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    Yes I do.

    ---------- Post added 31st Jan 2016 at 08:01 PM ----------

    There are many aspects of this observation that I agree with, though I wax and wane.

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    Because it's not like having a common hobby. A lot of people in the community of sexual minorities want and like different things, and sometimes they don't like certain other types that are represented in the community. It's definitely a similar situation to be in, but it's not the same as having things in common. That's what I see.
     
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    I don't even know if I'm a proper "member of the community" to begin with, so naturally I feel I don't fit in very well, but I think I echo Warkupo: I hardly fit in society in general, so this is just yet another group that I don't fit in with. Story of my life.
     
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    I feel like EC is a safe space for me, a place I can retreat from curious, ignorant people and find people who identify with my struggle or are facing a similar one.

    But expecting LGBT(QA...) people to be all happy together just because of our shared roots sounds as silly as expecting Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders to be best buds just because they're all white and heterosexual.

    And yes, LGBT(QA...) people of any color are underrepresented in the media because of, well, probably some of the same reasons that almost all of the people running for President are white even though the man in office now isn't. The same reasons people are having issues with only a certain type of person (usually male, caucasian) winning awards left and right. If countries like China and others were as ready to accept our community I'd imagine we'd see a lot more open LBBT(QA...) people out. Or maybe it wouldn't be a big deal at all and nobody would care.
     
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    Hey Justinian! - surely video games, film etc are not masculine interests?

    I love all the things you list, but I wouldn't say they were the things that made me feel like an outsider - I guess for me it's more to do with the fact that I don't know any gay people, friends + family would never accept it, im part of a slightly under-represented ethnic minority etc all that stuff.