Why are lesbians better accepted then gay men?

Certainly a good point!

 

Seconded.

I've noted this many times, particularly regarding trans individuals. I think those who identify *or present* outside of the gender binary get a really unfair shake from society. And that effectively includes all out gay men and women, and bisexuals with same-sex partners...it simply isn't masculine to desire another man; nor feminine to desire another woman.

 

It's feminine the way I do it, baby. *waggles eyebrows*

Oh god, it's not, is it? I'm totally like a dude. Damn you, cultural gender norms!!! *weeps forever*

 

I think it is largely dependent on where you live and where you work. This article is up to date and is a fairly good read, even though it cites "lesbians and straight women" in the title, it also talks about gay men.
Why do lesbians earn more than straight women?

 

I had to laugh when it said that lesbians were less likely to experience unplanned pregnancy. Ya think?!

 

Oh yeah, I remember laughing at that now when I read it, too (it was a few weeks ago). Some of these writers. Sheesh.

 

I have definitely experienced some homophobia as a lesbian. There was a time where my girlfriend and I were walking while holding hands and a woman behind us made the cross over herself and speed walked away from us. We laughed it off because it was ridiculous, but yeah it is kind of hurtful. We were on the beach the other day and a man walked by and muttered "nasty fuckers" at us. But about as often as that kind of reaction, we also get idiots who see us give each other a kiss and they give us a creepy smile like we're about to reenact a lesbian porn for them.

 

I strongly agree with what you said. U_U Couldn't have said it better, really.

 

I'll just leave this here (lets just say I disagree with some of blanket statements being made).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=gay+executions+isis


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I think it's more of a gender role thing:
Society views guys as having to be "macho" and manly and not talk about love or emotions, just sex so when men are gay it opens up this whole new thing about "Oh, they have such strong feelings of love and attraction towards men that they would go against the norm of society - just for their feelings". If that made sense. People don't generally concern themselves with womens' emotional and physical attractions because being in love is totally acceptable and fun if you're a girl and the physical part is just something no one really feels the need to talk about (just in general in our society).
So basically, with women, people are more okay with just leaving it alone, but with men, society feels there's so much more wrong with it and they need get in everyone's business about it.

 

Lesbians face a lot of the same issues of discrimination as gay men do. There are just as many ugly stereotypes and horrible slurs. We are faced constantly with men trying to "turn us," which sometimes escalates to physical assault. But yes, there is definitely more of a negative social stigma in place surrounding gay men. I think this is because lesbians are fetishized by straight cis men, and straight cis men pretty much run the world. They think it's hot, so it's sort of okay. Gay men are fetishized, too, but mostly by women and other gay men. The straight cis men are in charge. They're the target demographic for most of the porn floating around the internet ether, and they make most of the advertising decisions for mainstream companies, and they essentially dominate our government.

 

Lesbians aren't more accepted, the correct term is "fetishized". Basically, straight men have more tolerance for them because they want to fuck them. This is not at all a compliment to lesbians, and most of us become terrified of rape threats or physical violence if we say no. Lesbians are also more likely to be forced to 'accept' men in their sexuality, than gays are for women.

I know a lot of out gay men too. I don't think any of us has it better or worse, just different. Gay men have it worse in other countries where jail-time and execution is a thing, but in america It's just the same. All the people who disown gay sons, would also disown lesbians for their own religion reasons. Likewise, all the lesbians who are 'accepted' by men would face the same threat of violence once men realize they don't want to have sex with them.

 

I can only speak to my personal experience. I'm reminded of high school in the early 1980s in a fairly conservative town (so things are probably totally different now and in other places.) I had a male gay friend, as flamingly out as out could be. I didn't know of any lesbians at all. One of the reasons I was terrified to talk to anyone about my attraction to women, or my preference for looking at life from a "male perspective" was the vast number of derogatory comments I heard about "mannish" or "masculine" women (and as I recall, that was how lesbians identified themselves at the time) ... women whose hair was too short, women who wanted to take the place of men in the world, women who weren't interested in men. There was some serious hatred going on there. And as to the fetishization, I have hardly known a man who didn't have some girl-on-girl fantasy, but I have been treated to some incredibly hostile reactions from men at the thought that I might want to be actually involved with a woman, and not as a peep show for them.

Gee! I guess I am seriously bitter! :eek:

But anyway, at least in my experience it seemed easier for men to do what they wanted/f**k who they wanted, because... they were men.

"My two cents' worth."

 

In my community , it's kinda simple to explain this,
Lesbian women are seen as rebels , feminists and free as they tend to "challenge straight men" when it comes to sexuality
So it's somehow accepted , of course we can't get rid of the idiotic religious reactions that says they're weird or sinners ect... but they're still accepted.

Whereas for Gay men , they are mostly considered weak , submissive , and feminine (stereotypes) which places them below the "gender pyramid" where straight women are the bottom and gay men are right below them.
That's why society tend to make fun/bully and harass gay men as they think that they are denying their "masculinity" by choosing to have romantic relationships and sex with same gender other than the "weak" women.

So yea...that's pretty much it
a women who "takes the role of a man" (sexually) is considered tough ,so people won't even bother talking to them.
While a man who "takes the role of a woman" (sexually) is considered weak , and since most humans follow the "law of jungle" we are the victims and the prey in this situation.

 

So in this "gender pyramid" you envision...lesbians are *above* straight women, by virtue of rebelliousness? I'm not saying you're saying this...just seeking clarification.