1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

I think i've turned gay and i hate it.

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Kingjules, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Hi, i'm an 18 year old male and i think i've turned gay. All my life i've fancied females. When i was pre-sexual i had crushes on girls. When i entered puberty i was girl crazy, i fantasized about girls and crushed on them. I saw myself as straight until easter this year. Prior to this i've never fancied a male, never fantasized over one nor found one sexually attractive. I have a gf, who ive been with a year and a half. Anyway, easter time i smoked weed and the thought 'oh shit what if im gay' popped in to my head. Prior to this ive always been self-conscious. I remember that I accidentally made eye contact with a gay guy in my school when i was 14/15. I spent the next 3 weeks worrying that i looked gay. Theres been other instances where i was worried i looked gay or had a 'gay walk'. Anyway, after this pop up thought i felt weird for a couple of days. The thing is that i've kind of lost attraction towards my gf, shes to clingy and not good at sex. I started to imagine other girls when i have sex with her. I freaked out a couple days later. I had a panic attack. I've entered a high end of anxiety and depression. I constantly analyse my life to see of there was any gay there, I constantly check for arousal, i try to imagine gay scenarios etc. i do this compulsively to 'prove' im not gay. I spend my time looking at attractive men on google images to see if im attracted. However, i realise they are attractive but not sexually attractive which is very confusing. Im noticing good looking men so much more(which i hate). I have also lost all my libido and sexual attraction(i think) towards women. Thus makes me think i have turned gay. The weird thing is that i have been repulsed by gay stuff but the other day i was checkingg and i got aroused, i am very very anxious. I am very confused an suicdal. I dont find men sexually attractive and never have but a voice is saying i do. I have always had a fetish with anal sex(straight only). Is that because im gay? Im very nervous because when i check for arousal with gay stuff i can get an erection. (Not just with thoughts, i have to masturbate) why is this? Im depressed that ive lost my attraction towards women and that i can become aroused when checking. I have been diagnosed with ocd but i doubt i have it. Have i been in denial my whole life and just realised? Am i turning gay? Or do i have serious ocd?
     
  2. myself123

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2015
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Mumbai
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Hey Kingjules. I am really very sorry you are going through a hard time. I can understand what you are going through.
    From what you have written above, it doesn't seem that you are gay. When the thought first occurred to you, was it because of a past experience, of you being physically-emotionally drawn to guys? Or was it just a random whimsical thought?
    The instances of eye contact and walk that you mention, I think it could be anxiety and and ocd. If you haven't ever felt an attraction towards guys but keep trying to check for arousal, I am lead to believe that you aren't gay.
    I feel really sorry about the situation with your girlfriend. Also, porn is a very unreliable indicator of sexuality. Just because you get turned on by gay porn does not mean you are gay. I have read that, for eg, many lesbians get off to gay porn, or gay guys getting off to straight porn. Having said that, you having a fetish for anal sex doesn't necessarily make you gay.
    If you think, it would really help seeking a therapist, if there is no one that you can speak about this. You can openly speak about it and calm yourself.
    Please be safe! I hope you feel better soon...
     
  3. TempUsername3

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2015
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    New Zealand
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    I want to start off saying that there is nothing wrong with being gay. Along with that, I have lots of straight guy friends that find other guys attractive, its completely normal to admit that another guy is good looking.

    Things to consider would be that you could be bisexual (or at least something other than only attracted to guys?). Another thing is that you don't just simply "turn gay" you're born this way and it may have been the case that it has been laying dormant inside you for years.

    I'd suggest talking to a counselor about this, maybe one at school? or even whoever diagnosed you with OCD?

    This isn't the end of the world, its simply just a fork in your road to self discovery. We're all here to support you.
     
  4. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Thanka for your replies, the thing is that i dont find men sexually attractive and i have always found women attractive. I have gone to my doctors and i i am now doing cbt. I have been diagnosed by the cbt specialist.

    ---------- Post added 17th Aug 2015 at 05:58 PM ----------

    Myself123, none it was just a thought. I was stressed because i was starting to lose attraction for my girl and that all my friends have had sex with my girls than me.
     
  5. myself123

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2015
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Mumbai
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Did you lose attraction for your girl before or after? Losing attraction could be due to many reasons. I know its easier said than done, but try not being so hard on yourself.
    I hope things calm down for you and you feel better sooner than ever :slight_smile:
     
  6. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Thanks man, i lost my attraction to her but not to girls. Maybe because she is clingy and noy good at sex? I had to picture pther girls when having sex with her. However now ive lost all my libido
     
  7. myself123

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2015
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Mumbai
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    May be with all that you are going through, has led to the loss of libido in you. The very fact, that you say you're still attracted to girls should give you a peace of mind. Don't you think so? Irrespective, therapy will do you good. And again, please don't be hard on yourself.
     
  8. TempUsername3

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2015
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    New Zealand
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    I agree with myself123, sounds like you might need some professional help.
     
  9. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    I go to cbt(ocd therapy)
     
  10. Chip

    Board Member Admin Team Advisor Full Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    16,560
    Likes Received:
    4,757
    Location:
    northern CA
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    So a couple things that might be useful:

    First, one doesn't 'turn gay.' If you are gay, you were born that way. It is quite possible for people to be in deep denial for years (sometimes decades), but it isn't possible for sexual orientation to change.

    Second, what you're describing sounds closer to obsessive traits (OCD) about whether or not you are gay, rather than actually being gay.

    The best way to identify is to spend time masturbating, without porn, and first try fantasizing about girls, in one session, then about guys in the next. Alternate back and forth a few times and see which one is more arousing and exciting. After that, try masturbating and simply letting your mind wander, and see what images it comes up with when you aren't consciously thinking about it.

    If you are gay and in the process of coming to awareness, the revulsion and conscious rejection of the idea of being with a guy is pretty common; it's your conscious fighting with your unconscious because you don't want to be gay. So that, by itself, isn't very helpful. But your masturbatory fantasies are driven almost entirely by the unconscious, so it gives you a better indication.

    Feel free to post more clarification, or message back after you've tried this and we can try and help you clarify more.
     
  11. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    I dont need to fantasize over women because thats all i masturbate over, always have and i know that turns me on. So far since i try and masturbate over men(check) ive either felt so anxious or repulsed.

    ---------- Post added 17th Aug 2015 at 07:51 PM ----------

    Hi chips, i just tried comparing in masturbation again. Gay stuff didnt really interest me, oral sex with a man actually repulses me. The weird thing is that i can get off to anal stuff as i have anal fetish with girls, however when i think of a mens musclular bottom i get repulsed. Also imagining sex with a man just doesnt really interest me if anything, i kind pf hate it. I didnt get a full erection. I then tried to imagine a woman and then boom, erection. However i still het doubts and it feels like i was bias and am in denial. Its weird, even though ive proved numourous times, i still have to 'make sure' and still compare and look at men. Its like im filled with doubt. I just want to go back loving girls. Im also sorry for the graphic detail.

    ---------- Post added 17th Aug 2015 at 07:56 PM ----------

    If i had genuine sexual interest in women and crushed on them on all my life. If ive always fantasized about women and never ever men before this. I cant be gay can i? I know its possible to discover attraction for men, but that would make me bi-sexual? Ive always, always felt attracted towards women. Its just all these doubts and this anxiety.

    ---------- Post added 17th Aug 2015 at 08:04 PM ----------

    Another thing, since ive had this thing ive 'felt gay'. Like i dont feel like me anymore, i feel gay and its almost like an outer body experience. I just 'feel' camp and gay and i hate it.
     
  12. loveislove01

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2015
    Messages:
    872
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Earth, probably
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    There's aesthetical attraction; which is finding someone attractive or hot but not with the desire to have sex with them.
    Then there's romantic attraction; crushes, that butterfly feeling, falling in love...
    There's sexual attraction too. The desire to have sex with someone.
    From what you've written, it just sounds like you can acknowledge that a guy is hot but you don't have sexual desire. That's perfectly normal, even if you're straight.. I have a lot of straight friends who would say someone of the same sex is attractive, but would never consider dating them.
    Sexual and romantic attraction is what really determines your orientation. Have you ever had a romantic crush on a boy? You already said you kind of hate the idea of having sex with a man, and that already means you aren't gay if you find that repulsive. Liking anal doesn't make you "gay-er", because you always imagine it with girls.
    And, really, there's no "feeling gay". I mean, if you feel gay, then you're feeling attraction towards the same sex. What you describe sounds more like depression. You don't feel like yourself anymore...
    As for your girlfriend, it just sounds like you're losing attraction to her, but not to women in general. Also, things like depression can lower your sexual drive.

    I don't know exactly what you're feeling, but from what you wrote you sound pretty straight, don't worry! There's nothing wrong with being gay either though. The "out of body" and decreased libido are effects of depression and they will come back eventually. I agree with some of the others up there, therapy or counseling would probably be helpful.
    Good luck :slight_smile:
     
  13. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Thnks for your reply, no i have never fancied a male. Only females.
     
  14. Closet Shut

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2015
    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    United States
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay

    I think you might just be a bit OCD here, but I'm not a doctor.. or psychologist, so I wont pretend to know your situation, but one major thing that's crucial in knowing if you're gay is something that you mentioned in your post
    In my opinion I don't think you're gay, judging by what I quoted.. you're just scared, & I can understand that, some people may say it's homophobic but I don't see that, there are many young guys who occasionally have those moments, but I wouldn't get worried over it to the extent that you are, & it's not gay if you find another man good looking, a guy can look nice.. but you don't have to be attracted to him, but like I mentioned earlier in the post, your attraction to someone is determined by what gender arouses you more, is it both? or one of the other, then you have your answer, & if it's still a concern.. I think the best thing to do would be to talk to a therapist, or a peer or family member who can help you through it, in terms of the anxiety & fear you're going through.
     
    #14 Closet Shut, Aug 17, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2015
  15. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    I think im bi, i just tried to masturbate over gay thoughts and i can. I hate doing it but i can actually cum. It must been im bi, i was looking through pictures of men, and even though nothing aroused me i felt so anxious i decided to try and mastubate. The strange thing is that i do not find muscles, 6 packs etc sexually attractive. Nor do i with the male genaltalia or a mens muscular bottom. However i can get myself off just thinking about a big soft bottom, i dont think of muscles, dick or men. But i can get myself off to big bums. I feel weird though. It must be obvious that im bi. However, in real life when i check a dudes butt out i feel repulsed. Why? Also, i dont fantasize over men. I just check my arousal, which gets me very nervous but i can get aroused. I must be bi then?

    ---------- Post added 18th Aug 2015 at 01:43 AM ----------

    Its so confusing, its like im tricking myself jnto thinking im gay. When imagine giving a guy anal penetration i actually feel repulsed. But i can toss myself off enough to get arpused then i get confused! For the first 3 months pf this happening i felt genuinely repulsed by gay stuff, its almost like ive become desensitised to it. I cant stop myself from ' proving myself im straight' I mastubate like 3 times a day. Even though 98% of the time i am repulsed, occasionally i can get turned on. Another question? How can i be gay if ive been attracted to girls my whole life, not turned on muscles, genaltalia or mens muscular bums? Ive also never feltbeem attracted to a male, crushed on one etc... But i can get off tp thoughts while checking sometimes? I must be somewhat bi?

    ---------- Post added 18th Aug 2015 at 01:44 AM ----------

    Also, i have to masturbate to get erect, i cant get an erection by just thinking of a man etc.

    ---------- Post added 18th Aug 2015 at 01:50 AM ----------

    Sorry for the complete spam, but once I control myself and my anxiety. I actually feel no arousal and i feel straight? Very strange.
     
  16. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
  17. confused155

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2013
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight but curious
    Out Status:
    Not out at all
    Hey just want to say I'm in the same boat. I always thought I was straight and never checked out guys in real life but was turned on by gay porn just like you. I also was always obsessed with analing girls more so than having vaginal sex.

    I'm still not totally sure on my orientation either, some days I feel gay and other days I feel like I am 100% straight so it is very weird. What I can say is it has been easier accepting myself lately and with that I think I can tell that I'm actually attracted to guys, as much as I try to avoid that possibility.

    My advice to you is to relax a bit and do what you feel with whoever. There is no need to choose what you are right now. This is also coming from someone who has only been with girls, has been aroused by them and has been able to fantasize about them, but for some reason these "gay" attractions won't go away, and it's mostly only about the penetration. As far as my relationship goes, I really have no clue what I am but I know that I don't want to be gay so I try to avoid these feelings, but they are seeming to go away. So the big challenge is just accepting the fact that your attractions aren't in your control so there is no point in fighting them. And that does not mean going and fantasizing about this stuff whenever you get an urge but it means to cut yourself some slack if it does arouse, because it's perfectly natural.

    ---------- Post added 18th Aug 2015 at 06:27 PM ----------

    They aren't going away**
     
  18. Kingjules

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hell
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Thanks for your reply, the thing is that i actually dont find men attractive? If you showed me a picture of a naked man whom is attractive, i wouldnt feel attracted to him. Also, my obsession happened because i have ocd, a voice keeps on telling me im gay. Where as you are clearly bi sexual, i don't really find men sexually attractive.

    ---------- Post added 19th Aug 2015 at 12:26 PM ----------

    I am also not turned on my gay porn nor do i fantasize over men. I check my arousal to 'prove' im straight. I do not get an erection wgen i fantasize or watch gay porn. However, i can force myself to (by masturbating) and that leaves me confused. I've never watched gay porn or fantasized out of my own interest in my life.

    ---------- Post added 19th Aug 2015 at 12:43 PM ----------

    The confusing thing is that ive bever ever been attracted to men. In resl life i check my attraction but i always feel repulsed by men, nothing nice. I get repulsed of the idea of oral, muscles and a mens bum. However, i can get off imagining anal with a soft fat butt. Im confused.

    ---------- Post added 19th Aug 2015 at 12:44 PM ----------

    Also, i feel repulsed by kissing men and touching men. Ive never crushed on a man and i think i will ever fancy a man.

    ---------- Post added 19th Aug 2015 at 12:44 PM ----------

    Never**
     
  19. HC1234

    HC1234 Guest

    Hi there,

    It sounds to me like you are struggling with OCD around your sexuality.

    I have struggled with this too and what you are saying sounds very familiar (except I am female).
    What has helped me is ERP therapy. (you may already know about this but I'll write it anyway :slight_smile: )

    Here is my advice:
    Stop doing your neutralising behaviours (i.e checking, looking for evidence/ reassurance etc...) Your OCD will never be satisfied.

    In the short term your behaviours satisfy your OCD but it is actually just fuelling the problem to get worse. The pull to satisfy your OCD will be really strong but if you keep fuelling it with compulsive behaviours your anxiety may lower in the short term but longer term it will remain high therefore fuelling the obsession.
    If you learn to endure the anxiety/uncertainty without your neutralising behaviours, your anxiety may stay higher in the short term but in the long term it will lower and gradually it will fade.

    Hope that makes sense?

    Here's another thing that has helped me. Accept the possibility that you are gay.
    This does not mean that you are gay and you are not giving in by doing this. It's actually a really powerful thing. Your OCD is driven by the fear that you are gay and in order to find an answer you keep doing your neutralising behaviours. The problem with this is that it teaches your brain that it is a legitimate fear and fuels you to keep obsessing.
    If you stop making a big deal of it by accepting the uncertainty and just saying something like 'so what if I am gay?' when these thoughts pop up without doing any neutralising behaviours, after a while your mind will realise that it's not actually big deal and you will stop obsessing.

    I appreciate that sounds really hard but it's only been a couple of weeks for me and I am feeling much better already :slight_smile:


    Give it time and as your anxiety fades, your true attractions will start to show through again.
     
    #19 HC1234, Aug 19, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 19, 2015
  20. Schloss

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2015
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Beirut
    Gender:
    Male
    Out Status:
    Some people
    There was a recent survey stemming from the UK that indicated that almost half of the men surveyed don't completely identify as straight. I don't know how much this can be verified or generalised, but it does give a strong indication as to how sexuality is a lot more than a neat categorical box that is just "straight" and "gay".

    When I used to hear kids back in school overtly repeating their disgust towards homosexuality, later on discovered that this was just because of peer pressure and societal expectations. This of course led them to be quite cruel to other kids who did identify as gay, because it reminded them of something they did not want to be. Most of the people here will tell you that as you mature, it'll become clearer to you. And it's exactly that, you can't have all the answers when you're a teen, all you're going to get is more questions. Based on what the limited information we know about you, in my opinion, you're most likely to identify as straight.