1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Does becoming a celebrity means giving up on education?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by anthonybg, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. anthonybg

    anthonybg Guest

    I wonder if well-known people stop studying when they get famous or they do both things at once? Well, does that make them stupider than one university graduate, for instance? Do they always live luxurious lives, regardless not going to school? And can they make an actual living out of their fame?
     
  2. happydavid

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2014
    Messages:
    1,617
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    A town near Birmingham England
    Gender:
    Genderqueer
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Some people
    No they still have to do school work
     
  3. Michael

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2014
    Messages:
    2,602
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Europe
    Gender:
    Other
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Not out at all
    So what about Natalie Portman...

    It's a prejudice that gifted kids end up dumb.
     
  4. Maeve

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    322
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    California
    Gender:
    Female
    Emma Watson graduated from Brown University.
     
  5. Austin

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2008
    Messages:
    3,172
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    I don't think all of them stop studying. However, I would guess many do. I think most people go to college because they just want a degree to get a good job. If you're already rich and famous....

    Most famous people are rich so of course you can make a living being a celebrity.
     
  6. Not all of them stop studying. A career like a professional singer or actor is very unstable because fans change preference while movies and TV shows don't necessarily last.

    Some celebrities get a degree so it's a safety measure in case their career goes slow.
     
  7. HuskyPup

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2013
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    An Igloo in Baltimore, Maryland
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Fame is an increasingly fleeting thing, and there's more and more smaller niches. I don't think that's as much a guarantee of wealth as it used to be, so I agree: One would be wise to also get a degree.

    What was it that Andy Warhol said?

    "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes" (1968)

    We're coming close to reaching that point, given the vast rise of form of media.
     
  8. imnotreallysure

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2013
    Messages:
    2,937
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Well, two things.

    1) going to university is no guarantee for success - especially if your degree is unlikely to get you a well-paying job. I wouldn't waste my time going to university, paying £9,000 per term, just to get a degree in Art or Sociology. But that's just me.

    2) going to university is not a signifier of intelligence, at all.
     
  9. Gen

    Gen
    Full Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    4,070
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Dr. Mayim Bialik was a successful actor before she took several years off to pursue a doctorate in neurosciences. Most people know her from Big Bang Theory these days.
    Higher education is certainly not a requirement to be classified as intelligent, but there is a very strong correlation between academic success and intellectual ability. People of above average intelligence are more likely to preform better in school. People who preform better in school are more likely to continue to pursue additional degrees. So, I would argue that above average academic accomplishment does often signify above average intelligence. It simply is far from absolute.
     
  10. imnotreallysure

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2013
    Messages:
    2,937
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Well, that's a given - but the crux of my point is that pursuing higher education is not a requirement for personal success. I'm not sure how it works everywhere in the world but here, you can do your end-of-year exams and get good results, and could easily land a stable, well-paying office job. Likewise, a degree is not necessary for things like engineering, and they pay very well. Obviously if you want to go into teaching or something similar a degree is required.
     
  11. Gen

    Gen
    Full Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    4,070
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Well, that is definitely a regional thing. On this side of the world is largely university or trade school in order to be up to a stable career. There are quite a bit of exceptions, but they aren't the type of exceptions that you can expect. If you find a wonderful stable job without a degree in this region, then you are considered nothing but insanely lucky.

    ~~~ ​

    Back to the subject though, as little credit as we might like to give them, most celebrities are not the Kardashians. Most don't have the luxury of literally living off of pure fame. They might live off a craft or businesses, which do require their own degrees of prowess.
     
  12. starlights

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2015
    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    NY
    Gender:
    Female
    Out Status:
    A few people
    For every Natalie Portman, there's a Jenny McCarthy, using her platform to say crazy things. IMO the problem is that a lot of people think celebrities are more worth listening to because they're famous.
     
  13. Footnerd

    Footnerd Guest

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2015
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ontario Canada
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Those who don't get a degree and some real world work experience can find themselves in very serious trouble down the road if they don't make enough millions in take home pay to last them the rest of their lives and same with sports players.

    No one will hire them, employers are so strict these days, everyone has to go through the system, being a hockey player or celebrity doesn't get you a minimum wage job should things go really bad later on.
     
  14. Chip

    Board Member Admin Team Advisor Full Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Messages:
    16,560
    Likes Received:
    4,757
    Location:
    northern CA
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    There are quite a few who have left their careers for three or four years to earn a college degree, and others who earned a degree with online or distance classes.

    I think it's really up to the individual's choice. Those who see the value continue their education, those who don't do not.

    I remember reading about a number of former child actors who were very successful in their child or teen years and are now things like postal workers or real estate agents or other pretty unglamorous (and not particularly high paying) careers.
     
  15. imnotreallysure

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2013
    Messages:
    2,937
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    Gender:
    Male
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    To be fair, not everyone aspires to earn a lot of money. Those people might be happy as postal workers or real estate agents. The potential to earn a lot is often offset by added stress and longer working hours. People have different priorities in life.
     
  16. MyLittleWorld

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    1,168
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Brno, Czech Republic
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Bisexual
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Think Emma Watson, definitely not always.

    Not all people are stupid without 'proper' education society wants. Everyone chooses their own path, it's their decision. Some people are born with tons of talents, acting, singing, etc, if their skills bring fame, sometimes even unwanted one, they can't do anything about it, if they are born to do this it's their life. It's no different than doctor who studies his ass off to get a degree and save people's lives.