(Serious discussion): Feminism!

Though I might agree with some of their ideas like with many other ideologies; my identity, ideas and philosophy is not that easy to pinpoint to simply accord myself in 'a box'. I find it sweeter having the freedom of choice in each matter and not to simply adjust to the idea that the ideology I chose has.

I think a huge problem with politics is people are too gullible, too sheep-like in that they follow the stream. To choose an ideology and simply believe what you're told doesn't sound very appealing to me.

 

This. Like I could ever understand straight women anyway :lol: why aren't they fucking eachother? Oh sorry.. You aren't wired that way? I'm not wired to sleep with males :lol: I am still a female though and I need feminism to help me in areas surrounding my sexuality and how it's fetishized by lots of men!

Thank god the guys in my family don't have shitty morals like the others I've encountered.

 

I believe in Equality and that is all i will ever have to say about Feminism

 

Same.

I believe in equality. If you want to call me a "feminist" because of that, go ahead, but I probably won't use that label because of the negative connotations of that word.

I think the "movement" is often misguided and making mountains of molehills, but as long as people are truly working for equality, I couldn't care less what they do.

 

Why be feminist if you can be equalist

 

I did several blog posts on the subject. If you want my opinions then read those.

 

Time to duck and cover, because it's going to hit the fan.

 

This thread didn't have enough smashing of the patriarchy.

*Queer Feminist goes back into hiding*

 

Like others have said, I'm more of an Equalist.

I believe trans* folk are definitely discriminated most and that men and women are discriminated against in different ways. There are so many stereotypes people pressure both genders into. I think if you want to be a girly girl or a manly man go for it. But most of us are somewhere in between gender roles and that's not a bad thing and should be embraced.

I think extreme anything is bad which includes feminism. Don't focus too much on differences or it will divide us as the human species. Men shouldn't have to avoid crying to "look weak" and women shouldn't be expected to be Martha Stewart.

I believe in the separate but equal rule in this case and everybody is a unique individual regardless of what's in between their legs. Discrimination based on such a silly thing doesn't make sense and should not be used against people.

 

I call it kindergarten feminism

 

What I was trying to poke at is how people find it so important to label themselves as eg. Feminists, while my idea is that you don't need to. I believe it only creates borders that make discussion belligerent and in the end futile.

Obviously everyone is not entirely subservient in their thinking to simply accord themselves to whatever general opinion their group has. However I find, too often, that people are easily persuaded by fancy words and promises. Sure there have been very productive groups throughout history that have been fruitful in evoking positive changes, but then there are the groups that seem to care more about how they are perceived. Using their ideology as a kind of "accessory", if that makes any sense.

I also have to disagree on your statement that "feminists believe in gender equality as a basic principle". I guess it depends, but from what I've collected the majority of feminists are inadvertently against gender equality.

 

I think gender equality is very important. However, I've been yelled at (read: caps locked and sent angry emojis) enough times -by all sides of the argument- that I don't care much to be involved in these threads any more. It's too easy for people to twist someone's words to either be for or against there side.

 

I personally believe that if feminism is for equal rights for everyone, than it's using the wrong terminology for it. I used to believe that women had it worse when I was younger, but when I transitioned, I realized that it's about even. It's only that the issues are different. What issues do women have? Gender roles, not being taken seriously, taken as weak ect. What issues do men have? Gender roles, not being able to show emotions, higher drop-out and suicide rates ect. Then, trans people such as myself deal with social dysphoria, transphobia, ridicule ect.

To be honest, women don't have it worse, they have it different. Yes, we need to fix those issues but that doesn't mean men's issues should be ignored. By labeling the movement feminism, it officially gives more credit to female issues, whether that's the intent or not.

 

But the problems that both genders face are due to misogyny, not that someone has it worse than the other.

Think about it; WHY are men oppressed over gender roles, being gay, not being able to show emotions, etc? Because It's likened to "being like a woman".

I'm not saying that statement to say that women have it worse either. Just that the original views of women caused it to be harmful to anyone who is perceived as a woman. It's for the same reason straight men also face homophobia if they do anything that society sees as a stereotype of gay men.

I believe feminism is appropriate because you can liken it to "Feminine" oppression or "Perceived as a woman" like oppression. Men can fall into both of those categories and that is how the patriarchy harms us both.