Same-Sex Marriage

Separate but equal!

Answer is yes

 

Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal

Who voted no?

 

If your against calling same sex marriage, then your not really a supporter of same sex marriage at all or lgbt rights. Because you still want lgbt, people to be classed as 2nd class citizens .
I wouldn't want these people support at all , I say stop trying to sugar coat it by telling me your ok with civil unions, but not marriage for gays and lesbians . Just admit you don't support me .:dry:

 

First of all, even if there was such a thing as THE original definition of marriage, it has changed countless times since then.
So, even if you ignore the fallacious appeal to tradition, the tradition itself isn't coherent.

Marriage is ultimately a human subjective construct, not a fact of nature/reality.

 

arguing for definitional essentialism is a key indicator they've never heard of Ludwig Wittgenstein.

tldr: essentialism is unworkable for language

 

This is factually wrong.
Marriage existed looong before the Torah, much less the bible got written.
And the word marriage comes from a modern language.

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^this^

 

Not gay atheists. We have to draw a line *somewhere*, don't we?

 

I'm not yelling, or being upset.
Just pointing out a factual error, without personal judgement.

Those people should watch this:
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Yep that's marriage men get to screw as much women they want and we have to just shut up and take it .

 

I think Adam and eve where probably black or middle eastern, so I think that means white people can't get married

 

I kinda don't think Adam and Eve were married, right? I mean, the bible certainly doesn't mention any marriage. Sorta puts a nix on the whole Adam and Steve thing, in my view.

 

Marriage doesn't change how much two people love each other. I think as long as the rights are the exact same, then the title of "marriage" might not be entirely necessary. I don't oppose it, but at the same time, I think the title doesn't matter.

 

Well, y'know, one of the important rights of being married is being able to say you're friggin' married...the right to be a married couple. So it's hard for me to get my head around how the rights can be the "exact same", but it's not marriage.

 

This

 

Of course it should be called marriage. I see no other possibility for it to be called if we're looking for total equality.

 

Just to be clear, this is not at all meant to be an accusation of racism, but just a historical analogy:

As long as people can use the exact same water, it doesn't matter that black people have to use seperate fountains from white people.

As long as people use the exact same bus, it doesn't matter that black people have to so sit in the back of said bus.

It's seggregation, even if it's only through words.
By giving them different names, it would be implied that one is less than the other.

 

of course its marriage i have like nothing else to say except..... how can you support same sex "marriage" yet not call it marriage? so they support same sex "..."? same sex what? they don't support same sex "marriage" then sorry.

 

Marriage is marriage and should be called that. Bringing up the gender party is an unnecessary distinction.