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What should I think about my bestfriend?

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  1. matthewmatthew

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    also guys I want to ask all of you what kind of judgent I should do to choose a therapist? I feel really lost about, I don't want to make a wrong decision aboout the psychologist .
     
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    It seems like your friend might need a little bit of space. I would try and have fun when you are with him and not talk about problems so much as it seems to stress him out.

    I can't over any advice on the psychiatrist unfortunately.
     
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    I can see in your friend what I have been noticing in my friends when I was going through the same thing as you. One of my two best friends was also realy tired of my depression when I was going through it - it actually literally annoyed him. I think it happens especially to young people who have never really went through anything difficult in their life yet - they don't understand bad feelings, because they have never truly felt down - they are used to being happy all the time, laughing and enjoying their life. I was the same myself, until I went through what you are going through.

    On the other hand, the other best friend (the one I was crushing on) was also often down because the girl he wanted was fucking with his mind. And he is the exact opposite - everytime I want to talk about something serious with him, he's always there to patiently listen to me and try to help me.

    With that said though - I understand your friend's frustration, if it is true that you always want to talk about your problems, and not much else. I am sure he cares about you a lot and that he would love to help you, but I can imagine it can get tiring if you keep talking about it, without really attempting to make any progress.

    I applaud you for seeking therapy though. I really think it is a great decision that will help you greatly. Whether your friend is into you or not, you really need to stop worrying about it so much and move on in your life. I hope therapy can help you achieve that. :slight_smile:
     
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    yeah, I'm going to give him space.

    Yes, I realize the same conclusion as you. I got other friend who has been through some difficult things in his life and he understands me really well and make little comments that can make you feel good although it's a simple comment as "It make me really glad and happy see you today" and that kind of things.

    But my best friend confessed me some time ago his bullying issue was not that difficult for him and he never cries or feels bad about almost anything. Even when we were talking on friday he told me that "I was sad because I wanted, playing all the time the victim role because I KNOW THE SOLUTION" (he was really frustrated in that moment I think). So, it's true what you said, he doesn't understand that feeling bad is not something that you want or something like that, it's just we used to live with this kind of emotions and sometimes we seem more happier or less sad than other moments.

    Yeah it's pretty normal he felt frustrated. He compared me to a baby who is always crying without he knowing what to do. So, I'll try my best to avoid talking about my depression issues. But what do you think about talking about sex? Because I don't know if he is tired of this too. I guess if he felt tired of this he would tell in the discussion.

    Thanks for your comments guys :slight_smile: (*hug*) But did you know again what should I look for in a therapist in my case? I don't want to make a wrong decision.
     
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    Hi again guys :slight_smile:

    Well, I didn't see him after the discussion until tonight (I have to admit I have been avoiding the moment not going to class and that kind of stuff :icon_sad:slight_smile:. I contacted a therapist and told him thought message I was really scared about talking to a stranger about all that stuff, he told he was really happy for me. Guys could you give me some tips about not feeling so scared about going to the psycologist?

    We hanged out but we didn't talk about it, I tried my best to not talk about the issue but still feel like he is uncomfortable around me, like we went to a shop for a moment to buy some beer or something and he went out really fast just to avoid being alone with me, even I told him "but dude, stay here it's just a moment!" and he almost went with the other people after a few seconds, or it happened the "uncomfortable silences" between us... :frowning2: It hurts me A LOT because I'm EXHAUTED ABOUT EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE and just need some comprehension and sympathy for him but I think it's not a good moment in our friendship because everything is really weird right now because of all of this :frowning2: ... And all the time there a lot of things that hurts because it feels like he has replaced me with the gay guy and all that group of friends. Him and the gay guy are hanging out about everyday and when I ask him "hey :slight_smile: how was your day?" (like a really normal message between friends, and even without knowing they have hanged out, so it's a really inoccent message) he didn't reply and when he did, he talk about other issues. It's like he doesn't want to tell me he had hanged out or something... So, it feels pretty bad .... I feel like I have to use a new kind of way to gain his sympathy but I can't because I'm exhausted...

    BUT STILL WEIRD STUFFS happened...we didn't almost talk between us but we drunk and he started to tell me things like "I'm going to fuck you!!!" and things like that out of places (well everybody were having fun, but he told me that like whispering). Then, a friend said she have been feeling uncomfortable with some homosexual girls who claim she is "straight but bi". She was really defensive because "she likes dicks" and then my friend started to say "you know, when I hanged out with (the gay friend) and all his gay friends they told me and ask me all that kind of question about my sexuality, and indeed when I went to my house I HAD DOUBTS ABOUT IT, I was really fuck up with the issue (that was the day before we have the "argument") because "why not? and what if I like it?" but then thought "WTF i'm straight why I'm questioning myself, I like pussy, I LOVE PUSSY"" SO THAT'S WHAT HE SAID... I think he said that because he was pretty drunk because he would never admit that kind of things.

    And that's almost all what happened...I really thank you guys for your replies beccause I can't talk to him or other friend about my delusional love for my friend... :frowning2: and now it hurts me a lot all this things...but hope everything gets fine with the therapist :icon_sad:
    Also, I would like to tell him "dude, I have some feelings for you, sexual and romantic feelings and I don't know what to do with them because you're giving me mixed signals, this never happened me with a guy friend"...But THAT WOULD BE JUST....I think our friendship would not recover after that kind of things
     
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    I don't think there's a good reason to be scared about going to the psychologist. I understand it is weird talking to a complete stranger - but you have to realize that is the point. You don't know each other, you will never meet outside his office - so you can tell him anything you want! Nobody will ever find out what you have told him! I really believe he will be able to help you much more than us because he is a professional, and because he won't get invested in your feelings and will try to find the best solution for you.

    About your friend - just try to be yourself. Don't pressure him into anything, just try to live your life as normally as possible. I believe that trying your hardest about being his best friend again will only make it worse, because people who do things out of their character always seem suspicious and don't make good friends.

    I had the same feelings back when I went through what you did - my friend had also started hanging out with other common friends' of ours and wouldn't tell me. I felt down about it, but I just let it go, and hoped it will change in the future. Because I know how annoying it is when somebody you don't feel like seeing keeps pushing into your life - don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are a bad person, but sometimes one just gets tired of people and needs a break. It happens with my other best friend too - we spend a lot of time together and sometimes we are just fed up with each other, although we are best friends - so I avoid him for some time, to give us a "rest" or how to say it so that we don't damage our friendship.

    Really, I think the best thing you can do is seeing the therapist and getting help - he will help you regain some confidence, and once you are more relaxed again, I am sure your friends will be glad to have you back :slight_smile:
     
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    hi again, thanks for your reply, the last friday I applied all you said and I felt REALLY BETTER, I ignore him when he felt uncomfortable, give him spaces and didn't push him into talking to me or something and the most important thing didn't talk about my problems, yesterday I also regreted meeting him in order to meet other friend and it was totally fine.

    BUT TODAY I have to take some photo of him almost naked BECAUSE OF A PROYECT (it sounds WEIRD but that's the truth) and guys, I think we both ended really horny. I can say all the thing we said but it's a really long list full of phrases like (him) "you know, when I went to a places like this half naked, I always get hard" (me)"oh really? so why not ttoday?"/ (him)"THIS MORNING I got a dream about someone sucking my balls, and that was amazing..." (me) "shit, my dick is hanging out, wait a minute" (him)"Oh you're not wearing underwear now?" "yes I wore but my dick just hang out"/(me) "I will send you the pictures and also a dick pic" (him) "oh really? okay show me that picture, so I could laugh about your tiny dick" / (me) "what kind of profile picture is this, you look about to get a bukkake" (him) "hahahaha it's me waiting for my cumshot" AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, then I SENT HIM a photo of him like he was with his dick out and he just said "you silly hahaha" and now REALLY I WANT to make the move and send him a message telling I want to experience something with him, I HAVE NEVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT with a GUY, and also that would be really enjoyable for both of us because we're cute, we are always joking in a really sexual way, know each other tastes, and first of all, this would be JUST BETWEEN HIM AND ME, nobody would never know.

    WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? should I tell him this now? :eusa_doh: it's risky because all the drama we had the last week but today it was TOTALLY DIFERENT in a sexual way. :icon_redf:icon_redf
     
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    Remember what happened before... I would give him time! Maybe what he already did with you today was out of his comfort zone, so don't try to stretch him too far too fast! If he is ready to do it, he should be the same in 1 week. I don't see any point in going too fast. I would let him get accustomed slowly...
     
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    thanks for your opinion, I will wait. After reading my own post. Oh my god, I must seemed really desesperate for sex with him hahaha but I will wait and give him space and just flirting when it feels to do it and that kind of things.
     
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    oh my god guys, you would never expect what happened.

    I told him after a REALLY LONG DAY FULL OF SEXUAL JOKES, I have been feeling confused and some curiosity about us and that kind of things. And his response was UNEXPECTED. He told me he didn't mean anything saying that kind of jokes, even said we said almost the same jokes to other friends. (I agree with him in some points, but not really). AND AFTER THAT HE TOLD ME he has to confess me something ....HE HAVE BEEN feeling a "special" connection WITH A GAY GUY (that guy has a boyfriend and is friend of the gay guy I said before). I FREAKED OUT. I have seen him talking and trusting really fast that guy but I WOULD NEVER EXPECT HIM FEELING A "SPECIAL CONNECTION" WITH HIM. He said "it's not like I like him...because I like girls but we have been talking so much that I don't reject that idea"

    He also told me he never expect feeling homosexual thoughts but now he didn't refuse them. I'M REALLY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW. BUT REALLY CONFUSED. What should I do...? I don't know IF I CAN APPROACH HIM in a respectful way or if I should give up and give him spaces to fall more to the other guy...:tears::eusa_doh:

    ALSO I told him thats the same it's happening to me with him. We would meet in a hour but he didn't response...so I guess I should give him space and just be kind
     
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    Wait I think I am confused, so have you told him of your feelings for him or not?
     
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    I told him I have been feeling some curiosity about somethig between us...in a sexual way. I tried not to tell him about romantic things because I guess he knows I got that kind feelings because all the drama some weeks ago...But right now...I guess he just think I was all in a friend way. SHOULD I TELL HIM I got both feelings: romantic and sexual for him?

    Well, today I meet him with other friends. At first it was awkward but then we did the same jokes (not as sexual as yesterday) but you know...the flirting thing was still in the air. We laughed and have fun, so I THINK he is not totally uncomfortable about knowing that.

    However he still didn't response my answers through the smartphone, he didn't even read the message. So, I don't know what to think. I guess he will do it this night when he has time to do.

    BUT RIGHT NOW I'M MORE CONFUSED. :icon_sad::eusa_doh: what should I DO. I can believe I told him I got sexual feeling for him and he told me he have been feeling a "special" conection with a gay guy who has a boyfiend.
     
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    Congrats for telling him, that's a huge step, I'm proud of you :slight_smile:

    From what you describe, I wouldn't make any assumptions - if I get it right, you are worried that he now thinks that you only have sexual feelings for him, and that he doesn't realize you feel more than that towards him.

    I wouldn't be worried. From what you tell us, after you had told him the truth, he wasn't really surprised, and even made a big confession to you that he has also been feeling some curiousity. He obviously trusts you a lot right now and I think he has at least considered the possibility of liking you, despite saying otherwise. He is probably reevaluating his feelings right now, so I think it is really hard to guess what he might be thinking right now.

    Of course, don't hang on it too much and don't try to push him into anything. I think your friendship has just made a big step forward, whatever the outcome will be :slight_smile: I think you should concentrate on improving your friendship, just being a good friend and a good person to be around. If a good opportunity turns up, you can tell him more and maybe it will turn out he has feelings for you actually, but is just scared of them - but even if not, you will have gained a great friend you can really trust and share anything with, and that's invaluable :slight_smile:
     
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    thanks for your reply...It really help me :slight_smile:

    Well, things turns REALLY BAD...

    He didn't reply me as I said in the last post. So, I deciced to tell him that maybe my answers was not as serious as it should be and then I told him how I really felt about us. Like how I'm questioning myself, my sexuality because of him and that never happened to me before. And I told him if he is questioning himself we can try and see how things goes without any pressure because I don't know too what's happening.

    Well, he answered me the next day he has ZERO attraction to me, also he was very confused too because of that gay guy, and he would never be in a relationship or something like that with a friend because he "always" make a separation between friends and lovers. I was totally shocked because I felt cheated from him, and for me I doesn't make sense that shitty excuse about friends // lovers (he had a weird sexual relation with a friend, so for me I doesn't make sense. Also, I think you can develop a friendship into a relationship, but whatever) I understand the attraction factor is the main reason but I told him there were a lot of things from him that made me think he was into me. He told me he would never expect those moments to be misunderstood, and said he was really sorry because he see now how some moments could making me falses hopes about us and that make him feel shitty because he hurt me so bad.

    Then we talked about attractions and he told me he would NEVER FELT ANYTHING FOR ME in that way, he said that in some moments from my perspective... really coldly. However, the positive part was he told me I'm ONE OF HIS TRULY FRIENDS he would always want to be near me because I'm like his brother.

    Then, I asked him how would be our friendship after this. He told me...from him, nothing would be different and he will stop all the really sexual jokes as soon as possible and said he is not aware I would be uncomfortable around him.

    What I realize was I was always the one who were asking things like I was the only one who is truly worried. I asked him how he felt about that guy because he was a little bit homophobic some time ago so that must be hard for him. He told me he was not totally into that guy but it was weird because he just felt what he feel for girls before. Then, he said he was feeling things for the girl who said "he likes cocks" in one of the past post (the one who was REALLY DEFENSIVE ABOUT being curious with girls). I felt MORE SHITTY IN THAT MOMENT becuase that girl is "a friend" so I don't understand what is he saying. He also kissed that girl some years ago and he rejected her because she was not his type.
    But whatever..after that I asked him random stuff about things we have to do that afternoon and HE IGNORED ME SO BAD. Like I met him and other friends and he was there with his phone all the time. So, he ignored me because he wanted.

    After that he didn't talk to me until I told him if we can talk a little bit about it. (he said "everything was said..." ¬¬? REALLY?) I told him I felt bad because I don't know what to do because he is one of my biggest supports but now at the same time it could hurt me being near him. I told him I don't have any friend to talk about this because they are all busy with their things and I don't really want to explain this situation to anybody, so I don't have a "real" support right now. As well, I told him right now I don't know what I want or like because I feel confused about my sexuality. I always know I'm bisexual but I don't felt like I want it in my "real life", but now I'm confused because sometimes I want to experience something with a guy.

    AND WELL, HIS RESPONSE WAS THIS:
    "Hi..I understand it has to be hard but as I said...I can't do anything, sorry about it... The problem is now yours, because you can't felt confortable around me because you felt things I don't. So, I think time will tell you what you want. And you know, I'm here for you, but if I'm going to make more problems to you, or hurting you you better find support in (one friend's name who I told him he is busy with his things)."

    I felt like he was throwing me ALL THE WEIGHT OF THE PROBLEM when what is in "danger" is OUR FRIENDSHIP, so IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE AWARE TOGETHER. and he SAID THAT WORDS REALLY COLDLY as "SORRY, IT'S JUST YOUR SHIT "

    AND THAT'S ALL. He didn't reply me until that.

    Oh, I have to said...today was the day were we had planned go to visit the beach all together during some days. So I told him it would be better for me not going there with them because I'm sure in some moments the situation would be really hard for me to bear because all the social interactions and because I DON'T FELT TOTALLY STABLE.
    He just told me "do whatever you like :slight_smile: ...but I think you're making a world from a dust, and it make me feel bad because you are not going now because of me". :dry::dry::dry:

    :icon_sad::icon_sad::icon_redf:icon_redf I felt depressed because I felt I have ruined EVERYTHING but now after talking with other friend about feeling sad with some "unknow reason to him" I felt better. But this is going to be hard becasue I don't know how I could start seeing him with other eyes. :tears: However, I don't like that "cold" part of him making feel like the blame is all on me.

    WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK??
     
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    Hey, first of all I am extremely proud of you for telling him the whole truth! That's very brave of you, I know how hard it is to overcome one's self in this situation! :slight_smile:

    Now, I know you are not feeling very good about his response right now and I understand your emotions, but I think your friend is a great person :slight_smile:

    It is incredible how similar this whole story is to mine - and now, when I see it from a distance, I can understand your friends' feelings much more. It is great of him that he told you that you two are real friends, and that he doesn't want the friendship to be damaged. Really, you should be glad you have such a faithful friend :slight_smile:

    I think you should believe your friend. I know it sounds harsh when he told you he feels zero attraction to you - but at least you know the truth and you don't have to keep thinking about it any longer! Gay guys always look for signs of attraction in straight guys, but in fact, the straight ones can often get very touchy with their best friends, they just rarely admit it to others because "it's gay".

    Just like my friend to me, he just considered you his true friend with whom he can be totally himself - and he couldn't imagine that he could do any damage by acting like this. Remember, he apologised for doing this and said he is really sad for making you depressed!

    I know it's not the outcome you wanted, but once again, you have a great friend to lean on. I think you two should give each other some space - try not to text so much and see each other so often for some time. Also, don't bring it up anymore. Although he has said only words of support to you so far, I think he needs a little time to get used to the new you, and his stance is obviously final. Asking him more times could just anger him.

    But believe me, as I said, my story went pretty much the same and I am so glad it turned out this way - my friendship with the guy I was crushing on is now better than ever before and I am so glad he is there for me :slight_smile:
     
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    thanks...seriously, thank you for your reply.

    Thanks for helping me to see my friend as good as you said because in some moments I see him as he is blaming on me for feeling those things when he lead me on :icon_sad:

    But I should keep a space between us..but its hard becase we see each other almost EVERYDAY. And I'm the type of person who always feel really shitty when feel a little bit lonely...so, avoiding him would be REALLY HARD. Any suggest? :frowning2:

    Thanks again (*hug*)
     
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    I don't think you need to really avoid him - just make sure you don't pressure him in any way. He really sounds like he deeply cares about you and wants to remain your friend! So as long as you don't do anything stupid, I think things are gonna be ok.

    Try to focus your mind on something else right now if you can :slight_smile: like spending more time on some of your hobbies, it will help you take your mind away from the issue. And when you are ready, try to focus emotionally on someone else - you can try something with a different, this time surely a gay guy and figure out more about your orientation, if you want. I think that would help you a lot!

    No need to thank me. I am really glad that my posts are able help you. I got a lot of help on this forum back when I needed it, I ought to pass my experiences on to help others :slight_smile:
     
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    Hi..

    It's not about avoiding him (well, I guess it is) but it's more like I felt I had ruined everything because of my depressions problems...and now this... :tears::tears::tears: It's like ...that awful feeling you get when you look to someone's eyes and know he knows something about you that make you weak... :icon_sad: ... and I don't know what to do...but your advices are really good, I don't know if I could do them properly but I will try my best (*hug*) :slight_smile:

    But what I feel now it's ... at times I feel I can move on, do my best and try to focus in something else...but suddenly, I remember I have to see him...see hi with my other friends, or see him with the people who he is attracted or knowing at times I'll be alone because everybody has their own priorities...and he will not be there because that uncomfortable feeling will be still there...just make me feel depressed and REALLY BAD :icon_sad: I guess I'm the kind of person who make drama from everything...

    I'm still confused about what I want for my future relationships...I scared about falling again to the wrong person...it's like I feel I can't trust my mind to know is someone is really into me now...:eusa_doh::eusa_doh:


    thanks for you advice

    ---------- Post added 3rd May 2015 at 12:57 AM ----------

    also...I want to ask you something...

    For example...we talked yesterday in the morning...but he didn't response me and I had been 24h... I want to know what should I do in that times because I don't know if he thinks he should not talk to me because I feel "bad for us" and need distance from him...or if he is really tired of me...

    What should I do? I want to ask him "how are you :slight_smile: how was your day?" as I always did...but...:eusa_doh::icon_sad::tears:
     
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    I'm really sorry that happened to you man :/
     
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    :icon_sad::tears: hi guys...I feel pretty bad... I can't concentrate in other stuff... I feel anxiaty almost each 30 minutes...or each hour :tears: It's like I try to concentrate in something (study, seeing pictures, whatever) but suddenly something comes to my mind and I start a awful cycle full of thoughts about my future... my friendships... how I interact with people... if they are tired of me because I need them so much... I'm scared about nobody loves me or something... :icon_sad: if I want to experience something with a girl or with a boy now... It's confusing... also, I have a lot of work to do and this is frustrating... :icon_sad: feel like at times I could lose control and ask my crush something uncomfortable...and don't want to ask friends for help because I don't want to feel that awful emotion of need

    I just want to cry, close my eyes and disappear... and in deed I could not talk to the terapist about my crush because I don't want to talk about that subject ...I just want to focus on my low esteem and my depression problems there...:tears: I know I should but I'm not ready to talk about it to anybody...

    I don't know what to do guys... really...

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    I don't even know if I'm a toxic person or something and that's because I don't have too many friends... :icon_sad::tears:
    Really I feel pretty bad right now...:icon_sad:
     
    #80 matthewmatthew, May 3, 2015
    Last edited: May 3, 2015