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Political Compass

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by BryanM, Jul 6, 2013.

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How did your Political Compass end up?

  1. Left/Authoritarian

    5 vote(s)
    5.6%
  2. Left/Libertarian

    70 vote(s)
    78.7%
  3. Right/Authoritarian

    3 vote(s)
    3.4%
  4. Right/Libertarian

    11 vote(s)
    12.4%
  1. Browncoat

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    If is the point. Another definition of anarchy is the abolition of institutions seeking to restrict the freedom of individuals to do whatever they want, provided it doesn't violate a non-aggression axiom (no aggressing or threatening others; everything else goes, laissez-faire). An an-cap would also claim that there are no such hierarchies; just free association. There would be a claim that individuals hold all the power.


    But it's all hearsay, and theoretical. Same goes for every anti-authoritarian system to the left of it. There are also examples in history of systems nearing right-anarchy, just as there are those in left-anarchy. However, none of these cases have existed for any meaningful amount of time and there is very little to take from as an example of what would necessarily happen if you put one up.


    In reality, the vast majority of governance has been in those top two quadrants. We know, generally speaking, how those tend to move along. We know little in comparison to the bottom two quadrants. Frankly, I'm just tired of, and pissed off at, the status-quo, and want try something else.


    I.e., anything along that bottom line. :thumbsup:
     
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    I happen to think anything like Murray Rothbard's anarchy would devolve into a collection of Pinkerton-type gangs very quickly.

    Also, any points (x, y) such that x >= 7, -10 <= y <= 10 belong to what I call the Kill Zone.
     
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    How do you suggest people feed themselves without working for it? Anarchism doesn't invalidate the laws of nature. It is a rejection of the initiation of force and of arbitrary human authority (the state).
     
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    And I won't argue against the potential for it happening.
     
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    I guess being in college and being about the produce my own thoughts changed my standing rather than me being in high school and following what my parents believe

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    true, very true...
     
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    Bippity boppity boo.

    Stripe101: That's not your result; it's a demonstration chart showing the directions of the scales. Your result is probably further down the page, and will have a red dot instead of arrows.

    Caleb93: I've added you but I'm not certain that you're in the right place. Can you check for me?

    TechnoBoy: Updated.
     
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    This stuff must take a lot of time, thanks! :slight_smile:
     
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    I'm not sure you understand what anarchy is. Are you under the impression anarchy involves people sitting on the ground refusing to work?

    Yes, but given in an ancap system there are hierarchies: as I have already said, the boss and the worker. Would you deny that is a hierarchical relationship? Would you deny that the choice of the worker to work for an employer isn't an entirely free one, since its a choice between starving to death or working.
     
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    I think he was referring to the idea of "work or starve," which you implied was oppressive and were opposed to. I agree with Caleb, though, that there is absolutely nothing wrong with that idea, nor is it oppressive, in my eyes.
     
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    you dont know anything about anti-work politics do you?
     
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    Seems that I resemble Ghandi - yeah, that sounds about right :slight_smile:.
     
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    wow what a shitty chart

    for a start: mutualism is left wing, 'activism' isnt an ideology, 'anarchism' should be left wing, i dont even know what ultra-anarchism, communism isnt authoritarian, i could go on
     
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    *gasp* I'm safely within the statism square...

    Economic Left/Right: -3.51
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.32
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    communism is absolutely authoritarian within a different system.
     
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    communism has never been authoritarian, even Marx - inventor of the idea! - said it was to be classless

    socialism on the other hand, can and usually has been authoritarian
     
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    Wrong. Communism was corrupted by the USSR, who was really just an authoritarian state capitalist.
     
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    I keep seeing people bringing up issues with the Political Compass. I would encourage people who have issues or questions to read their FAQ. Most of the issues people have raised are addressed there.

    Here are some excerpts that may be helpful to the conversation.

    I think this addresses most of the issues people have raised so far about the Political Compass. Once again, if people have issues, I'm pretty sure it has been addressed in the FAQ.
     
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    I just updated the master chart again to AaronMed and JBWat. I know someone else updated it recently, JBWat occupies a unique position on the graph and somehow I find it aesthetically pleasing to see more diverse viewpoints on there.

    Updated Master Chart
     
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    Economic Left/Right: -7.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46

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    no surprise here

    Foxface