Having "conservative" values and being gay

I understand why you feel so guilty, not becuase i know hot to stop it just becuase every day i feel guilty, I feel guilty that i put myparents and my family through so much. i feel guilty when gay or homosexual is said in a public place and they are mocking it. I feel guilty when sexual attentions arise becuase i think alot of people think gay they think of sex. not me and not to be offense totally sterotypical.
I try to see the bright side well i am who i am not matter what no one change that tand the thoughts i just think it shapes us as a person and we can't really define them or stop them. I know underresources at the top of EC they have a part under masturbation and why the guilt.

I hope i helped but what can i say im stuck like you.(*hug*)(&&&)

 

Yeah. I'm very similar. I still have very conservative values. I have liberal ideas, I am open to others and what they want to do. I believe in not restricting others decisions. As for myself, I am very conservative of myself and what I do. Its hard to fight sometimes and there's such a stigma for a "gay republican". I am more of a moderate than anything and I vote for the best candidate not a party.

 

OK ~ having an issue with masturbation is not a "conservative" value. It's just an outdated value. Once you get that clear, you will lead a much happier life. :]

 

I've only had two really serious boyfriends. Both have been Republicans. What are the odds?

There's nothing wrong with not wanting to watch porn or wanting to engage in casual sex, but it's important to try to let others do as they'd like. I mean, I don't want to have sex with women, but that doesn't mean I think NOBODY should.

Lex

 

You and my daughters Lex. :roflmao: Why can't they find nice liberal boys?

Anyway, forget the labels. Do what feels right to YOU because you are the only one that matters. And on that note....I guess I have to allow my daughters their Republican husbands/boyfriends.

 

Yes, I heartily agree. The issues you've described don't really have anything to do with conservative political values, except perhaps inasmuch as those have been conflated with "family values" political views. What you're describing (as Calchip pointed out) is Victorian-era hang-ups about sex being a bad thing.

I just fail to see how porn is really all that degrading. Well, I mean male/male porn. Compared to, I don't know... most popular comedies aimed at men, say? People just seem to tie themselves in knots over it but I really don't get that. I mean I kinda felt guilty about wanting to see it when I was a teenager but I don't think I ever lost any sleep over it and once I had more established myself as a self-sufficient "adult," I'm just like... uh, ok, why would I beat myself up for wanting to look at/read something that turns me on?

And as for masturbation? Geez I so do not get that at ALL! I guess that's the benefit of not having been raised religiously or something but yeah, the only thing I was concerned about was not getting caught doing it. I certainly didn't feel bad about doing it whenever I could. :lol:

 

I'm a gay Conservative (here in Canada) and find that overwhelmingly my conservative friends are completely accepting of my sexuality.

There are some people who have unfortunate views on this, but the same is true in any political party.

I also completely agree with you regarding wanting to make careful and moral choices. Particularly, I do not subscribe to the theory that gay people either have to be promiscuous or without morals - that is a stereotype and not reflective of who I am.

 

Yea i have to admit, clicking on this thread i did not expect this haha. I thought it was going to be about being politically conservative not sexually backwards.

I dont mean to offend, but yea porn and masturbation and sex thats just sex are all not bad things. Sure they are things you can shy away from for whatever reason (other than masturbation cause i firmly believe thats as important as getting your vitamin C) but they are most definitely not 'evil' or 'wrong'. Porn can be addicting, so if thats why your staying away that is a very wise move. Sex can be too emotionally attached for some people, so for some its best to save that for long term relationships only. But if you dont do them because you think its wrong, its basically impossible for you to look someone who does those things in the eye and say you dont judge them for it and its fine for them to do. If you do that, your throwing your entire standard out the window.

...but as for conservative/republican gays, just dont vote another bush into office and we can all be friends

 

For me about 85% - 90% of my friends are Conservative Catholics and one of the two people I am out is also one. She supportive of me but Im still kinda scared of coming out to all of my other friends that arer conservative.
As for porn i also feel bad when I look at it but I still do and it makes me feel more gulity when i enjoy it so much same goes with masturbation I like it but I feel bad sometimes for likeing it.

 

I don't feel bad about watching porn or masturbating but when I feel I'm doing them in excess then I'll start to feel bad about it. It may desensitize you to sex and all that and I don't think it's a good thing.

 

>>>Why can't they find nice liberal boys?

They're out handcuffed to trees. That, or they already have boyfriends.

Lex

 

That's the quote of the thread right there! Even better than Lex's line about being handcuffed to trees (oh that can be SSOOO much fun!).

 

Right.
In the other cases, I find conservative values degrading to the human race. They are useless tools that hold humans being back as a species.