Obama

I'm glad Obama won, but I honestly think this whole primary has split the Democratic Party right down the middle, and probably the only way to bridge it would be for him to have Clinton as his VP (which would probably be a smart move to have some experience on his side, I think.) I'm not sure if he will, though, considering she has been a real bitch to him (no offense to her supporters, who I'm not that far from, incidentally) because of her *slight* mudslinging and lack of acceptance of defeat. But I hope he does...I think it really would be a smart move. She is a really good politician and either one of them would have been good on the november ballot.

As Republicans go, I honestly think McCain would be a good president compared to Bush, who was just a #$@% @#$#@ $#&, if you know what I mean. At least he knows what a horrible thing this war is and knows that the country is REALLY screwed up, instead of sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling LALALA like Bush is doing.

This is really going to be an interesting presidential race...but the thing is that this country couldn't get much worse.

I wonder what people generations from now will say when they look back on George W. Bush in their history classes. "And here, students, is the worst president in the U.S. history, who fought a useless war and reduced the value of the dollar to dust, as well as much much more..."

Anyway, that's my bit.

 

Amen to that! Let's be civil here...but honestly, politics is very thin ice to walk on...I always avoid the subject at school, where about 76.5% of the people support bush (I made the number up, but you get the point.)
Let's everyone play fair, okay?
(Wow, I sounded like my PE teacher...pardon me for that.)

 

lol

everyone on the track team calls me Obama

anyways Obama swayed the crowds by his excellent speaking ability. Just like Adolf Hitler........

 

I'm sorry but McCain has publically supported a federal marriage amendment which would permamently define marriage as "one man, one woman". I'm not sure why you think he would support gay marriage.

 

I don't want either of them ;-;

 

im not afraid to say that obama is as popular as he is because he is black.
african americans flocked to him because of that, because of something as trivial as his skin color.
the only person who has made it about race is him, and his supporters.
i honestly dont blame anyone who doesnt vote for him for that same reason.
it works both ways.

i dont support obama, i dont know if i would support obama if hillary was on the bottom end of the ticket either.
i love hillary with all my heart, but i dont want to see her as second-banana on the demorcratic ticket.

the democratic party stabbed her in the back.
i wish she would turn her back on them.
and the liberal media were against her from the beginning.
she is probably too loyal and too good of a person to do this, but i wish she would run as an indpendent, because she is the only candidate that i want to be my president.

MADAME PRESIDENT '08.
i personally could not say i have respect for hillary and then support obama after this primary season and the things he has said about her.
i dont respect him, especially for that church he went to.
even if hillary tells her supporters to back obama, i dont think i can do it, because i know in the long run, hillary would want us to do what we feel.

 

Saying that everyone who dislikes Obama dislikes him because he's black is a little bit of a stretch, don't you think? If people honestly want to put race in the past, then it's kind of silly to use it as an excuse for liking or disliking a political candidate. It bothers me when black people say they support Obama just because he's black, or white people say they dislike him because he's black, or any mix of the two. People should put a little more thought into who the next president should be and not base their decisions on such superficial things. I realize there are bigots in the world who don't like Obama because he's black, but bringing up the issue over and over is not going to make it go away, and it won't change people's minds.

I never really liked any of the candidates, but felt like Hillary had stronger and more definite positions, as well as a more solid background. Obama, however, does have the charisma and leadership to truly inspire people (as anyone who has seen a speech of his has seen), which is also huge for a president, and lack of experience does not necessarily mean he will make bad decisions in office. I have never supported McCain for a number of reasons, but I do think a lot of attacks against him are unwarranted. As a Republican, he has voted surprisingly liberally in the past, although his warmongering does detract quite a bit from that.

As a Democrat, I'm very disheartened that there is such a divide in the Democratic Party, and wonder if things might have gone a little better had other candidates gotten the momentum from the start, like my old pal Bill Richardson. Regardless, though, things are how they are, and Obama is a lot better than McCain. With his victory in this past primary, I now fully support him in the upcoming general election.

I just hope the split can be healed, and McCain does not win the presidency, as I fear looks likely at the moment.

 

Look, people, you've now got a choice. It's simpler now.

Obama or McCain?

Think about their policies. Think about their attitude. Think about what you want for your country. Then say who you really want. Don't make this about Hillary.

To people thinking about her as 'second' if she joins Obama, keep in mind that right now, she's one of the two senators looking after 1/50th of America. You support her on her VP ticket, and suddenly she's the second most powerful person in America. Suddenly, she's got the biggest promotion of her life. Okay, so she's not the president, but do you honestly not think that she'd be in a better position to make decisions if she sided with Obama?

So many people here claim to like Hillary, yet in a choice between seeing her as:

The second most powerful person in the country, with the only man above her agreeing on most policies and only disagreeing on certain things that could undoubtedly achieve a compromise;

vs

Seeing her stay in a position as the junior senator of New York, while the person who differs in beliefs with her the most is given complete control of the country you live in;

It appears that plenty would prefer the latter. Are you sure you're Hillary fans? I mean, if I liked Hillary, I'd want to put her in the strongest decision-making position I could.

Finally; if Hillary runs independent, McCain wins. On the balance, just over half the democrats would vote for Obama, just under half, for Hillary. This isn't even nearly good enough for either of them to win. If you combine those votes, that might just do it.

 

my point is, why should hillary swoop in and back obama when he made her out to be a racist, and went to a racist church?

she didnt have a 90-10 % point difference when it came to women, as obama did when it came to african americans.
i dont like that i am called a racist because i dont support obama and that i think that he has the support of african americans because he is black, which is pretty much what you just said, but when i say it its taboo.

 

what happens if nobody would win the required amount of electoral college votes needed to claim the presidency?
im hoping im not incorrect in saying that the senate would decide?

i dont know.

but as for hillary being in a more powerful position....
i just dont see hillary playing second banana. and i dont expect her to.
nor do i want her to.
she does an amazing job as a senator.
and ill just wait until 2012 for a second chance.

 

im very happy obama got the nomination even though im not going to vote for him lol i would rather see him in office then hillary. his nomination is obviously a huge step and everything but im still voting mccain lol

 

Right now, she's playing something like eightieth banana in the US, if we're gonna put it like that. Right now, she's behind Obama anyways.

And if she becomes VP, and if Obama is not good enough, she can go for it again in 2012. She'd have spent time gathering even more experience, it'd be yet another feather in her cap. Whereas otherwise, she's the person who never quite made it. Just another name. People don't remember who the failed candidate for the democratic or republican ticket was. But they remember VPs quite often.

Right now, she has the joint control over New York. If she joins the Obama ticket, she'd gain joint control over America. So she'd not be President. She'd still be in a position to influence America. And either way, she can still run again in 2012, can't she?

 

Three scenarios here:

1.) Hilary accepts the VP spot, and Obama had a successful 8 years in office - Hilary become the front-runner for 2016.

2.) Hilary runs as an Independent against Obama and McCain - Her political career is virtually over. Enough people in the Democratic Party don't like her as it is; if she tries to sabotage the November election, she would be HATED by more than half the Party.

3.) She goes back to the Senate and tries again in 2012 or 2016.


There were other comments in this thread that I really wanted to respond to, but I don't want to say something to one of you guys that I would regret.