according to Jerry Seinfeld, sex is considered to have taken place "once the nipple has made an appearance"
I agree, people say gay sex isn't sex, yet they hate us because they think all we do is have sex with eachother... I don't know where sue johanson got the idea that sex has to be penis in vagina, because that's just not true. A girl who has anal sex has indeed had sex. Preforming any kind of sex act on another human IS, in fact, sex. That lady needs to get her head out of her ass.