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Possibly Gay, trying to accept

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by CJZ, Oct 6, 2021.

  1. Contented

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    Very similar here, I can certainly can acknowledge a beautiful woman but have absolutely zero sexual interest in them. With men I have a particular type I find attractive and gravitate towards them.
     
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    As we know lots of gay men have interest in beautiful women, women's fashion, without being sexually attracted to them.

    As many here have mentioned you'll probably find or realize that you're not really sexually attracted to women, you just find them beautiful, and as you 'let yourself' look in the real world your tastes in guys will expand.

    I remember when I was in heavy denial a guy flirted with me and I got very anxious. I used that anxiety to say to myself "see I am not gay' - literally two years later, when I finally started accepting myself I started fantasizing about him.
     
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    I can relate to this so much. For me it’s like that as well, being attracted to clean guys with great bodies and a big p*nis. Unfortunately not all men are like that. If I think about French kissing a guy the idea turns me off, but being submissive and giving orally e.g. turns me on incredibly. I like watching straight porn and fantasize about being the woman rather than being the man.


    I also relate to you finding women much more attractive and beautiful (cleaner as well) than men. I can have sex with women (I’m in a hetero sexual relationship) but I’ve never been the type of guy that went hunting for women if I look back.

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    Yeah, very similar. I am realizing that while I find women beautiful and have some degree of sexual attraction (mainly an "ass" girl), with my type of guy (athlete, muscular, "clean looking"), the arousal is a lot stronger. It's just frustrating that the attraction feels so limited because most guys do not look like that including myself. It just makes things more confusing because when I walk around, it is hard to find men I truly find attractive. However, when I look online at male model types or male athletes, I feel strongly attracted sexually to them. I also had sex with a male escort and got jerked off by a male masseus, both that fit that "muscular, jock" type. Both experiences felt great so I know the attraction is real. I guess I just fear that my attraction to men is truly that limited, which would really suck in terms of finding someone for me physically and emotionally. It makes it easy for me to continue questioning even though I know that attraction is real. On the other hand, I dont want to live with this "secret", and I don't see how I could be with a woman again in a way that is honest and authentic when that attraction to men is so strong. Frustrating.
     
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    I got a hair cut once and the guy giving it to me was very openly gay. He flirted heavy with me the entire time. I remained very quiet and nervous .This was long before I admitted to myself I was as gay as him. After I thought that was so uncomfortable was so relieved to get out of there but later I would regret never going back and would fantasize about him too. But at the time I couldn’t allow myself to see him as attractive or enjoy a cute guy flirting with me.
     
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    Thanks for you reply. I understand it is frustrating, as you don't want to dive into something and eventually find out that it's not for you or that it is not what you expected. Then again, I don't think you can hide for your true self. If you are attracted to men, then you're attracted to men. Is your attraction to women limited as well? Or would you have sex with any woman? Because I know that I couldn't just sleep with any woman.

    I'm kind of in the same boat as you, the only difference is that I'm in a heterosexual relationship (my girlfriend knows "im attracted to men as well). The thing that concerns me is that I'm not sure if I can live a monogamous life without giving in to my sexual gay fantasies. I've done this for years but it feels like torture. Then again, waking up with a guy, kissing with a guy (unless he's really good looking and clean) doesn't appeal to me, I would rather do with a woman. But I'm not sure if that's just internalized homophobia which I will outgrow once I fully accepted my fantasies and desires. I don;t think we should have the answer right now, I see it as a journy. But it shouldn't take a lifetime.
     
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    With me it was very similar - I thought women were beautiful but the only 'part' I thought about was the ass. Even though I could imagine some erotic arousal around say touching a woman's butt, every other part was just 'eh' even though I could acknowledge and find women super attractive that was the only part I was attracted to.... when I finally let myself look at ideal guys' butts and let myself imagine, well doing stuff :slight_smile: there was no comparison, plus I could turn them around and do stuff too :slight_smile:

    I have an ideal type that hasn't changed, but I found it doesn't have to be the 'perfect' ideal to be attracted to a guy. As I accepted myself more I noticed more guys IRL i found attractive.
     
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    I came out to my dad basically saying that I think I'm gay but still trying to get to a place of certainty. He, like my mom was very supportive. I am fortunate to be in an environment where I will receive support from most people. I know that the issue is me. It is just so difficult to say I'm gay with confidence when I go on a dating app and swipe left on 95% of the guys but am highly attracted to 5% of them. This makes it difficult for me to distringuish between bisexual and gay. I definitely am more sexually attracted to a hot guy than a beautiful girl but I guess there's a wider variety of girls that I could find attractive, just to a lower level of attraction than a hot, muscular guy. Not sure if this makes sense to people but just what I am feeling inside. Also not sure if there is an aspect of denial here that I am holding onto but definitely not my intention! Ughhhh
     
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    Still continuing coming out to people but having a very hard time saying "I'm gay." It honestly doesnt feel right when I say it since my attraction is so narrow. Most guys I see I am not attracted to; really just the clean cut muscular type. I also still feel a repulsion toward making out with men. As for women, I am still sexually arroused by a women with a nice ass. I'm starting to wonder if bisexual better describes me but also want to avoid being in denial of being gay. I wonder if the bisexualiy could also explain why I figured out I had same sex attraction so late relative to most gay men, as there was genuine arrousal toward women growing up (straight porn, past gfs, etc.)

    Any thoughts?
     
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    When I was a teenager I got hit on all the time. This went on for about 4 years. It did'nt matter where or who I was with. The train ,Arbys , custom car show , clubs and even on the job at a customers as exaples. It became a standing joke with my friends. How many numbers did I get.
    Fast forward twenty something years .divorced and it starts up all over again. In resturants and clubs ,shopping. Now I have a loving gf I am in my 50's and after 7 years in this relationship there is an incident. Afterwards we have long discussion and she loveingly helped me discover my true sexuality.
     
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    You have a type of man you are attracted to. Once you find him I believe you will be very comfortable kissing him .If you're just looking for a hook up it is uncomfortable. You won't have that natural feeling.
     
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    This is absolutely the case. Finding a man you are attracted to sexually and emotionally changed everything. It suddenly all makes sense and you become comfortable in an exclusive gay relationship.
     
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    @CJZ I agree wtih @Robyn mac and @Contented
    I am not trying to 'convince' you but just look at what you are posting
    but this fantasy is far more intense than any woman, right?
    internalized homophobia.
    - you are only interested in a girl's ass, but how often do you fantasize about it vs a guy?
    You could be 80% 'gay' remember few people are 100%
    but let me put if this way, if you saw your fantasy guy and a girl with a nice ass which one would you choose?
     
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    I would say that my mind reverts to my girlfriend's ass when fantisizing, probably because I've been having sex with my girlfriend for years. It's kind of like a sexual imprint I guess. However, when I masturbate thinking about my ideal guy, I would say that it takes longer to get to ejaculation but I would say the ejaculation is stronger? I am contining the coming out process this weekend. Going to talk to my ex-girlfriend. I have been coming out as bisexual/fluid, as it feels more comfortable at the moment. I can feel sexual attraction toward both sexes. If the label changes to gay soon after I find the right guy then great but its just hard for me to feel certain when I haven't really had the experience and my attraction is so narrow (repelled by body hair, only muscular clean cut guys, etc...) For that reason, the label gay feels limiting at the moment. Can anyone else relate?
     
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    Well who does'nt like a guy who is clean cut. He does'nt have to be muscular . What does it for me is personality and smart. He's smart but does'nt have to be a genius. Can carry on a conversation and have facts to back up his opinion.
     
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    Ok I didn't know you actually fantasized about your girlfriend's butt, I thought you just looked on the street (which is common), I can understand why the label doesn't work at the moment.
     
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    Yeah, I can fantisize about a girls ass quite easily, usually my ex-girlfriends. However, I can fantasize as well about muscular, clean cut guys. Usually more fantisizing about the men than any sexual acts, maybe think about them blowing me. It takes longer to do, but the release seems to be stronger. In person, I had experiences with a male escort and a male masseus, both of which I was highly arroused. I'm clearly somewhere on the spectrum, it's just hard for me to pinpoint exactly where. I can envision spending a life with a man and enjoying it in terms of companionship, it's sometimes just hard to envision the intimacy and I feel my sexual compatability is limited in terms of the kind of guy i'm attracted to. This is where I struggle. Going on a date tonight so will see how that goes.
     
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    I don't know how old you are, but I know it's more difficult to reach a point where you're fully comfortable with yourself and your sexuality the more time you've spent closeted over the years. Being content with your sexuality is not going to happen over night, it's a process that can last years. So don't feel like you have to rush into this. It's ok to take it slow and really evaluate your situation. Have you considered that you might also be bisexual? Many closeted men anxiously go straight to "I'm fully gay" and that probably causes even more issues when they still experience attraction to women on some level.

    Every gay/bi man who comes out later in life has the exact same type: Muscular, clean cut hairless jocks. This MIGHT be influenced by porn, but more often than not it's probably a symptom of being closeted. You've spent years only focusing on women that you just haven't nurtured and grown with your attraction to men. The muscular, clean cut jock is an idealized archetype of masculine beauty; it's "easy" to be attracted to them because in a way, it's psychologically spoon-fed to you so you don't have to do any individual introspection of your own sexuality and your likes/dislikes. I think as you start to feel more comfortable with yourself, you'll find that you're attracted to a wider range of men. If you find yourself only attracted to clean-cut hairless muscular types, there's nothing wrong with that of course. But realistically how often would those men be attracted to YOU? Not often, I assume. The gay dating pool is already very small, so you're looking for a minority within a minority and that lessens your chances to find genuine connections and romance. Either widen your prospects or expect to spend a good chunk of your life single. Not trying to scare you, it's just good to be realistic.
     
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    Everything you are saying makes sense. I am 28 FYI. I have been coming out as bisexual since I do feel a degree of attraction to women. As for my attraction to males, I am definitely dating beyond just the clean-cut muscular jock. I am hoping that I can find an emotional connection where the physical attraction becomes less important but it is deifnitely hard. Hopefully with time, I will find more guys sexually attractive. I haven't had a ton of experience so I think it is fair to say that I am still introspecting about my sexuality and likes/dislikes. I pray you're right about eventually finding a wider array of men attractive because I am definitely looking for something long-term and filled with intimacy, as looks only last for so long.
     
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    @CJZ Thanks for this thread. I'm like you except that I'm going through this at 60. Now that I'm out to this group and finally signed up to a dating site as a bi-man, I find myself passing on most women's profiles. I still find them attractive, but am more interested in discovering what guys I might match with. I'm also scared to death of being trapped in another straight relationship, unable to be my whole self. Whats confusing is I still feel romantic (and some sexual) attraction for women.

    My question for those following this thread: To figure out my attraction, should I change my dating profile to gay so I can hash out my feelings? Is that fair to those guys I'm matching with? I am determined to live a life true to myself and also open/honest not to harm others. Even though I know this is hard for you @CJZ, you are so fortunate to be in this discovery stage at 28 with a whole life ahead of you! Good luck!