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I don't wanna be gay

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  1. kellynec

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    So apologies if this isn't the right place to post this

    But at this point I'm pretty sure I'm either fully gay or mostly gay and a little bit straight

    Even tho I don't have any problems with gay people AT ALL, ME personally, again, I (!) don't wanna be gay and live my life as a gay man

    Again, I know homosexuality isn't a disease. It's just that I wanna be just like the other guys you know...
    Be part of the herd, not an outsider (hope this isn't offensive, it's not my intention to offend)

    So, do you think in 10 years we're going to be ablr to change out orientations? Because I'd just wanna be like the other guys

    This is just tearing me apart. Maybe I won't be sleeping tonight because of the impact this has on me.

    I NEVER EVER thought I'd turn out to be gay, holy sh&t... Why me, god...

    Again I don't have a problem with you guys, gays, it's just I wanna be like 95% of the guys, be part of the straight population and stuff... Have meaningful relationships with girls and be with girls... be attracted to them.



    I feel like I could just kill myself now

    Off-topic maybe but I don't even have the gay manneurisms, huh... Sorry again


    PS I'm sorry if I've offended anyone here. I don't have any problems with gays, just so you know. It's just about me. I want to choose who I am attracted to, who I enjoy having sex with etc

    Sorry for the rambling
     
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    kellynec,
    This is a complex situation that u will have to resolve for yourself … tho others can help.

    It'd be helpful if u provided more information such as why u think you're gay, & your relationship / sexual / friendship experience w women & men, & why u don't want to be gay.

    Without anything further to go on, I'd say:
    - u may be obsessing, as on here your profile u say you're "questioning". In your post, u say you're a "little bit straight". So u could be bi.
    - Myself, being bi, my response to u is different than most gay men. If you're bi, u can choose whether u want to be w a woman or a man … or choose the person, according to how you're drawn to them, & not based on their gender. If you're gay, u need to accept your orientation, for long term happiness.

    Plz say more … I think it'd help u be more comfortable with your own inner beauty & nature. The path to wholeness is loving who u are.
     
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    I think for any of us who first come to understand we might not be straight... the reaction you're having is familiar. As we begin to come to terms with this understanding, we also have to process the loss of our straight identity. In going through that loss, there are phases... denial-anger-bargaining-grief-acceptance. From what you are describing, it sounds like you're between anger and bargaining, which is perfectly reasonable and normal.

    To answer your question, It's unlikely there will ever be any effective way to change sexual orientation, and even if there were, it would raise some very thorny ethical questions so it's unlikely to be available in the foreseeable future.

    What I can tell you is that most everyone who is gay has been in your shoes, and felt the way you did. If, in fact, you are gay, you will come to embrace and fully accept and love yourself as you are. It may take a while, and it may not seem possible right now, but it will happen.

    In the meantime, one of the best things you can do is to talk about what you're feeling, exactly as you're doing now. And understand that nobody is going to get bent out of shape at your venting or the anger you're feeling... we've all been there.

    I hope this helps. :slight_smile:
     
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    Why I think I'm gay: Lately my masturbation fantasies have changed, and I used to be able to get off to women only. When I was 8 - 14. However nowadays I've been completely desensitisized to women I think. I just don't like vagina for example. Breast, ass, hips, face etc I used to love and obsess over, but nowadays they don't do a thing

    I don't wanna be gay since I wanna be like I used to be. And I also don't wanna be gay because I wanna be of the majority and not minority.


    I don't know man, this is so bad for me
     
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    Dude, I'm sorry, but there is no way you were possibly getting off when you were 8...
     
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    If you dont masturbate to guys(am assuming) and women dont turn you on, ever thought that you might be Asexual but hetero-romantic? Also your still so young, it may take some time to know yourself better.Just work on fighting the negative bit on gay attachment, or male on male attraction. Your over obsessing on that bit and its not healthy but dont worry just cause your different doesnt mean your not special and beautiful. Just take time to learn yourself, be safe, good of heart and considerate of others and everything will be clear in time. Your not alone.

    Totally unrelated to your post Op. Its interesting, to constantly see how people panic on realising they might be into guys. Means the societal homophobia is still lethally heavy, even with gay marriage. There is still urgent need for a revolution against homophobia in religions and cultures globally.
     
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    I was, sorry. I know this sounds weird, but I really was. I started liking how my female teacher was leaning against the wall in high heels and a black mini skirt as she was reading story for us in elementary school

    Then when I was 10 I discovered videos, not necessarily porn, ratherr soft-porn and started fapping to that. All females. I remember there was a game called something like strip poker where you essentially had to answer questions and then the girl would take off one piece of cloth at a time until the woman was completely naked. I loved that

    I know this sounds so odd but still believe me I know what I did
     
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    Young? I'm 20 bro haha, I'm not young, at leasst I wouldn't say I am

    I do masturbate to guys

    That's all very nice of you man, but I wanna get my old self back. Like I couldn't imagine why I have eventually either become gay or bi if I started off as a straight dude. Those attractions to women weren't forced, they came on by themselves. I just liked it, don'T know why. But I overdid it because I masturbated like 10 times a day watching all kinds of soft porn and regular porn. I wanted to fuck every 2nd girl on the street etc sorry for the language

    Look I'm really not againstr gay individuals ok? I just wish to belong to 90-95% of the guys (straight). This is what my heart wishes for. That's all I ask. I know this might sound so dumb given the scientific background of homosexuality as a phenomenon, but shouldn't we be able to change our orientations IF THE PERSON WANTS TO in 10 years? We know more and more about why homosexuality occurs (genes, neurobiological mechanisms, prenatal environment etc)
     
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    Oop your 20. Lol Judging by your wanting whatever you did when younger back, i see internalized homophobia, your over obsessing on societal norms and wanting to fit in, its affecting your peace. Its common for some lgbt folks to have this excessive Shame, of not being straight, they will cling to anything to be fully straight. As said above by someone else, walk in your nature and truth, you cant delete your sexuality, you will just be asking for chaos and unhealthy hetero relationships. If your attractions to men and women was currently happening naturally, with no conflicts or wanting to forego anything. You would be in a healthy state of self, thus forming positive bonds with others but currently your not. Work on the internalized homophobia. I.H has nothing to do with your dislike for gays, its self explanatory with the word -Internalized. Societal prejudice has got the best of you and its crushing your inner self. In addition i have no clue why your only physically obsessing on things. Your not even thinking of forming meaningful bonds.

    In the words of Rupaul- If you cant love yourself, how in the hell are you going to love somebody else.
     
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    I thought I was straight to you know, for quite long time, between the age of approximately six and twelve years old. Although now I remember a moment during this period when I was freaking out because I seemed to like boys and girls the same way (yes, a repressed memory...). I thought I was abnormal at that point hence the freaking out.
     
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    Well I do understand that with the current technology we can't change our orientations

    But don't you think in 10-20 years people will be able to change IF THEY WANT TO? (I understand and respect the fact you don't want to)

    Yeah, definitely internalized homophobia a bit. But what do you say about the fact I just want to be part of the crowd (straights)? It's not me HATING the fact I'm gay, it's just that I'd rather be at least bi you know... It's a bit difficult for me to explain now, sorry
     
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    It's interesting you say this. Because I personally was only attracted to girls and women between ages 8 - 14. Like, I got turned on by female (lesbian) porn, I also got turned on by heterosexual porn but I strongly disliked it because of the presence of the man, especially the penis. It's not that I was already turned on by it at that time. Completely on the contrary, it was a huge turn-off, that's why I used to watch 1) female webcams with huge boobs and ass and stuff 2) lesbian porn because of the absence of male genitalia and males in general

    Honestly, sorry for the language, but I don't know what the hell is going on with me.
     
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    Well, your a very unique specimen, i must say, though i have heard the same life stories with some lgbt folks.
    Even if no one can explain your shift at childhood, i still dont get why after the age of 12, you werent upset with your gayness but now at 20, suddenly your acting up,panicking as if it was months ago when the shift happened. I just think your current environment is playing a huge role in your current mental struggle. Maybe you should just take a vacation away from everybody and soul search before you hurt your mental health.
    In 10 yrs to 20yrs, there will still be no technology to change sexual orientation. More like a better understanding of the variations of sexual orientation and more progressive laws, that aid lgbt people in having fulfilling lives.
    I do understand your struggle, maybe based on your environment its hell to be different. But dont let hate win your soul and heart, search for lgbt allies, dates and friends to make you feel at home. To counteract any hate you may be facing. Therapy also can come in handy, on overcoming difficult times.
    We need guiding hands always, to help us in this treacherous and painful journey called life. Therpay, to keep us grounded and self aware of our goals, know our importance and to keep on growing our inner selves at the end of the day.
     
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    So, like, do you think I could be bi even tho nowadays I don't really feel an attraction to women?

    Given my feelings as a child (8-14). All I know is they came on by themselves and I didn't force myself to like girls or something like that

    Yeah I know this is unique, definitely.
     
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    A girls body was never a turn off for me. I just kept thinking I was straight because I didn't know bisexuality existed so I minimized my attraction to girls. I mean, if I was attracted to boys I was straight, right?

    Now, we are all unique, and it's not because we have different experiences that you can not be bi. Put ten bisexual people in one room and you get ten different stories. Only you can know your sexual orientation.

    Why do you prefer to be bi? Because if you think it's easier being bi than being gay, I honestly think it's not.
     
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    Hm because as Tomás said, I could choose my attractions. Male or female, it wouldn't matter. And I could blend in society way more effectively, be part of the crowd (the straight part)

    To be frank, this is why.
     
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    Actually, kellynec, that's NOT what @Tomás said. Or, at the very least, if that is what he stated, it is wrong.

    Just as gay guys can 'choose' to be celibate, bi guys can 'choose' to focus their attention on opposite-sex attractions. That doesn't lessen, by any means, any same-sex attractions that we have. It simply means that we can 'pretend' - at least for a while - that our same-sex attractions don't exist. In the longrun, that is a zero-sum game because we just have to be who we truly are. You can't be 'authentic' to anyone, especially if you aren't authentic to yourself in the first place.

    My 2cents.
     
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    I do understand and what you're saying is wise indeed

    But at least your attractions are there :slight_smile: I wouldn't have any issues with same sex attractions if I was bi. huh Because then I'd be partly straight
     
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    That's why I asked the question. I already thought I would get this answer. I agree with Quantumreality. I have exactly the same experience. This 'pretend' period lasted for me until I got to know my gay colleague better who is always unapologetically himself. And it just struck me at some point. Who do I want to be for the rest of my life, myself or someone else? And then the acceptance began. Because up until then I was still partly in denial, still thinking I was in a bisexual phase although I was 34 (although I had not been able to think of myself as straight from about the age of 15)! I am glad I'm out now and I think I should have come out way earlier but no regrets (we're ready when we're ready). I always thought it wasn't necessary because I have boyfriend (who knows I was interested in girls from early on in our relationship and is totally fine with it) but I was wrong. I feel way better now.
     
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    No offense to you, but I HATE when someone who is Bi or might be Bi describes their attractions as "mostly gay" or "mostly straight". If you are Bi, you are Bi. Regardless of whether your attractions are more same-sex or opposite-sex. To "identify' as "mostly gay" or "mostly straight" just strengthens Bi-erasure.